Safety Intervals for Generic Delta

Hello Gurus,
I want to know about safety upper limit and lower limit for generic delta.
I have gone through the previous threads related to this topic and i am not able to understand completely.
can anybody explains me this in detail with example in terms with Calday, Timestamp & Numeric pointer.
Thanks in advance.

There is very good example was exist on wiki.
please search and help yourself.
Use Google search by using search term " wiki generic delta".
You will get what you need.

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<b>
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70ehp1/helpdata/en/44/9821620553053de10000000a1553f6/content.htm
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Here some SAP informations:
Safety Interval Upper Limit of Delta Selection
This field is used by DataSources that determine their delta generically using a repetitively-increasing field in the extract structure. The field contains the discrepancy between the current maximum when the delta or delta init extraction took place and the data that has actually been read. Leaving the value blank increases the risk that the system could not extract records arising during extraction. Example: A time stamp is used to determine the delta. The time stamp that was last read is 12:00:00. The next delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. In this case, the selection interval is 12:00:00 to 12:30:00. At the end of extraction, the pointer is set to 12:30:00. A record - for example, a document- is created at 12:25 but not saved until 12:35. It is not contained in the extracted data but, because of its time stamp, is not extracted the next time either.
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/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/abap+dictionary&
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