Sales bom vs production bom

hi
not sure if this problem has a solution, but i just wanted to crosscheck.
we have a number of items that was wrongly created to start with as production bom's when they should have been sales boms. we are forced to create production orders for them. i know that once we create an item as an inventory item, it cannot be changed anymore.
is my only alternative to created a new item number for all of these items? can you think of any other way around this? a new part number is going to create a lot of headaches around!
thanks
prem

Hi Prem,
You understanding of once we create an item as an inventory item, it cannot be changed anymore is not completely true.  Only if you have transactions to tie them up, that will become true.  Suppose you have just made production orders for half of them, you can remove the other half to reduce your headache.
In case of locked items with transaction, there are legal issues behind it. Even though it is by mistaken, you're not allowed to say I never done it.
Thanks,
Gordon

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