Sales Commission poting to Cost Centers Through Sales Order

Dear All
I have a situation. My Client want to post commission on different Cost Centers for different materials on the processing of Sales Order.
I mean when a sale order is processed the Commission will be expended in One GL but it should be posted to different Cost Centers for Different Materials
Can any one please help me how i can configure this
Regards
Bilal Athar

Hi,
You can try to create a substitution in CO (OKC9) and to substitute cost centre based on material number - COBL-MATNR (grouped in sets).
Regards,
Eli

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Cost analysis through Purchase Order created from Sales Order

Hi Experts,
This is the scenario: There is an Item No. which is not stocked in warehouse and is purchased only when customers ask for it. The cost of the sales order line having this item is calculated by the Purchase Order line on which the item is there. (The PO have items for other Sales Orders as well. And, Sales Orders have multiple item types) The Sales Order have the PO no. against it and Purchase Order has SO no. against the line. This is all done using MS Access and Sage Accounts. Lots of free typing and manual cost analysis involved.
I have gathered from this forum that we can create Purchase Order from the Sales Order. The Document No. information can be pulled from one another using Formatted Search. Can we do the accounting and cost analysis as well?
Please let me know if I have not made myself clear.
Thank you in advance and kind regards.
IC
Edited by: iancameron03 on Sep 20, 2011 4:35 PM

Hi Ian,
I concur with Faraz, it is better if you use procurement document facility in doing back to back transaction from SO to PO.
However, in your case, I'm afraid you can't analyze the gross profit and recording the accounting related activity as your request using standard SAP B1 function.
As for gross profit case:
Since you're actually using workaround in order to evade all hassles in maintaining all item master data related to this case, you create just one item code called S1 right?
SO DocEntry - SO Line # - Item Code - Item Name - Quantity - Price
1001 - 0 - S1 - Table - 2 - 100
1001 - 1 - S1 - Chair - 8 - 25
1001 - 2 - S1 - Cloth - 3 - 10
PO # - PO Line # - PO BaseEntry (SO DocEntry) - PO BaseLine (SO Line #) - Item Code - Item Name - Quantity - Price
2001 - 0 - 1001 - 0 - S1 - 2 - 100
2001 - 1 - 1001 - 1 - S1 - 8 - 25
2001 - 2 - 1001 - 2 - S1 - 3 - 10
Note that standard B1 gross profit calculation is that system will compare selling price for each item with item cost / certain price list of each respective item. However, in your case, you put all item as a single item master. Thus, system couldn't compare Table to Table, Chair to Chair, Cloth to Cloth since the item cost for these 3 items will be the same, the price list for these 3 items will also be the same since it is actually only one master data. Of course you could update the gross profit calculation manually for each SO, but to be honest it seems rather weird to do this manually.
So, in order to simulate the gross profit calculation, you need to create a custom query and comparing PO line no with SO line no.
As far as accounting related recording concern, I'm afraid you can't do it
1. SO 1 : Item Table - Selling price 130 ; Item Chair - Selling price 30
2. PO 1 (linked to SO 1) : Item Table - Purchase price 100 ; Item Chair - Purchase price 25
3. SO 2 : Item Table - Selling price 150 ; Item Chair - Selling price 40
4. PO 2 (linked to SO 2) : Item Table - Purchase price 110 ; Item Chair - Purchase price 30
Correct me if I'm wrong, you want to record accounting wise that CoGS of Delivery based on SO 1 is 100 for Table and 25 for Chair, isn't it? No matter what costing method you use, you can't achieve this.
If you use moving average, system will average both Table and Chair cost price, since it is actually one item master data. Even if you distinguish each item as a master data, system will average the cost price for Table and Cloth by the time GR for PO 1 and PO 2 occurred.
Example (order by sequence of event):
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100, therefore Item cost = 100
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110, therefore Item cost = 105 (considering quantity only one for both PO)
3. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 105, not 100
To certain extent, same thing could be said with FIFO costing method
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100 (qty 1)
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110 (qty 1)
3. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 100 (qty 1)
4. Delivery based on SO 2 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 110 (qty 1)
At first glance, it seems right since the CoGS for SO 1 is 100, tied up with purchase price for PO 1. And CoGS for SO 2 is 110, tied up with purchase price for PO 2. But we're using assumption here, we're assuming the sequence of Goods Receipt of PO and Delivery of SO occurred in the very same sequence as the issuance of SO and PO.
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100 (qty 1)
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110 (qty 1)
3. Delivery based on SO 2 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 100 (qty 1)
4. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 110 (qty 1)
If above scenario / sequence that happened, you will get the wrong figure of gross profit since the Delivery of SO 2 will take the item cost based on GR of PO 1. Since we're actually talking about real life business process, who can guarantee that above scenario wouldn't happen? It is possible that you send goods to customer who ordered late in real life, too much possibility that it is better for you to mitigate such result.
My suggestion would be that you record the accounting transaction based on standard business process, no need to really capture the actual cost and actual gross profit for certain SO and PO. Too complicated, and the software itself doesn't cater this kind of requirement. Best thing you could do only create custom query for gross profit simulation calculation, but for very accurate accounting recording, IMO you should forget it. Hope this help.
Best Regards,
Hendry Wijaya

How to use multiple cost centers with internal order for PO

Dear Gurus,
I have one issue.
For indirct purchase with posting over internal order, my client wants to book good reciepts over different cost centers.
Thanks In advance
Regards,
Sameer

Hi Sameer,
For the scenario you have mentioned, you need to check the account assignement at the PR/PO wherein
you can take Cost center as actual object & internal order (statistical) as assignments.
At the time of Goods receipt the system will the automatically post to Cost center with a statistical posting to Internal order.
You have the second option of maintaining account assignment at time of PR/PO as Inetrnal order only (Actual) & then at the month End you can settle the cost to multiple Cost centers by defining the settlement Rule. For Eg. At the time of settlement you can post 20% to Cost center "A", 50% to Cost center "B" & 30% to Cost center "C".
Assign points...if useful.
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Is this possible?

dear Fernando,
the cost center which u r using for the work center to capture the operation cost only. Ur GI is taking automaticaly with ur confirmation, and goods are getting posted to order. finally the cost which is costing for that work center usage is also go order only.
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Cost centers in sales order creation

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Cost Centers for Work Orders

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I have an issue with work orders for our maintenance team. The orders are being settled to the incorrect cost center. I believe this is happening because they have not been set up correctly. Please can you tell me if there a way to transfer these into the correct cost center? and how can I change the set up on these work orders?
Please can you help.
Best Regards,
Yasmeen

It sounds like you need to change the settlement rule on the work orders so they settle to the correct cost center. Go to IW32 -> Goto->Settlement rule
To move previous postings, you can do an CO only reposting using transaction KB11 to move CO postings to the correct cost object.
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Cost center in Sales Order/Credit memo request

Hi SAP Gurus,
There is a requirement from our client. They are processing Credit Memo from SD VF01 via Credit memo request. The want to assign Cost center in the line items which is greyed out at the time of processing in VF01.
I also verified in the Credit memo request in VA02 even there is no field available for to maintain Cost center in line item so that at the time of billing it can derive.
Please advice whether can we assign the Cost centers in Sales order/Credit memo request line items?.
Regards
NTH

Hi NTH,
In the standard system, the field cost center is only ready for input
if the sales document category is VBAK-VBTYP= I (that is, order without
charge). For all other order types, you can make it visible by entering
an order reason provided that the combination of the sales area and the
order reason has a cost center assigned in OVF3. To change this standard
behaviour, USEREXIT_COBL_SEND_HEADER can be used. There you can find a
short example on how to make a field visible and modificable in the
account assignment screen.
Moreover, please take into account that the account assignment to a cost
center is possible only at header level. So it is not possible to
insert the cost center at item level, you can only insert it at header
level.
The cost center determination takes place in
FV45KF0V_VBAK-KOSTL_ERMITTELN and is reading from table TVAUK.
This table can be maintained in transaction OVF3.
If you wants to be able to enter the cost center manually in the
account assignment screen (header level), you can use the user exit
FV45PF0C_COBL_SEND_PBO_VBAK (SAPMV45A) - there you can find a short ex
ample on how to make a field visible and modifiable in the account
assignment
I hope that this information is of assistance to you. Thanks!
Regards,
Alex

Sales & Cost of Goods Sale

Dear All,
What is a link between sale of material and cost of goods sale?
If some material is sold to the contractor, can we track cost of goods sale?
Please give me the maximum details u have.
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Amit

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The cost of goods sales account will be updated once the post goods issue happens of a SD delivery. The COGS will be debited and Inventroy account will be credited. The coast of the goods is taken from the material master, accounting tab.
After the delivery, the billing document will be generated. The Customer will be debited and Sales revenue will be credited. The price will be taken here from the condition record maitained in VK11. System will validate the COGS to get the cost of the material and the invoice amount (sales) to calculate the profit margin.
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How to find the list of cost centers reporting to a particular employee

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I have to create one report in Java Web Dynpro. In the report, I have to display all cost centers reporting to a paricular employee. For example suppose Vice President of company has pernr 6481. From pa20, we quickly find out that his cost center is say 1209000. Now the Vice President has several reporting cost centers. For example one cost center will be for Marketing Deptt, other may be of HR deptt.
Please let me know how I can find out that what all cost centers are reporting to pernr 6481(Vice Preseident)
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Gary

Hi Pradeep,
Thanks for email. In my project name has been maintained in CSKS-VERAK. However this name does not matches exactly with the name of pa20 (HR). It looks like SAP has not provided data integrity between HR name and CSKS-VERAK. It seems that while creating cost center, the user enters name in his own way. For example "Al-Fahad Malki" can be written in "Malki Fahad-Al" or "Malki Fahad" or "Al-Malki Fahad". The name of user in pa20 may be "Al-Fahad M". So it is not possible for us to use solution provided by you.
Hi Pradeep, SDN Users,
I have used following logic for getting cost centers for given pernr.
1) Take pernr as input. Exexute RFC HRWPC_RFC_OADP_GET_NAVOBJECTS. While executing RFC pass following values:
a. OBJSEL - MSS_TMV_EE_ORG1
b. Begda u2013 Today date
c. Ends u2013 Today date
d. User u2013 pernr
e. Cachemaxage - -1
2) Then program should read the value of OBJID from HRWPC_RFC_OADP_GET_NAVOBJECTS output.
3) After this program should read value from HRP1001 for following condition
PLVAR = 01
OBJID = OBJID of step 2
RELAT = u2018011u2019 and
RSIGN = u2018Au2019 and
(check todayu2019s date is >= begda and <= endda ) and
SCLAS = u2018Ku2019 u2026 and
SOBJID = first 10 charactersu2026
The cost center will be first 10 characters of SOBJID.
4) Return the Cost Center as derived in step 3. The cost center name and cost center name both should be returned as the output.
5) Sort the Cost Centers in ascending order of Cost Center name, if needed.
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Usage of Cost Centers, Profit Centers and Internal Orders

Hello everyone,
i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
Now we are installing SAP BI and want to create a report which would be generated acording to cost centers but with statistical key figures.
The question would be how to make a connection between cost centers orders and those stat.key.figs?
In our case the economists say that we are using this kind of scenario:
Dist.chanel ->
Sender: Cost center, Cost element
Receiver: Int.Order
and Stat key fig.
This is the only place where we have a connection between thos objects. Is there other way how to connect them. perhaps using profit centers?
If somebody didnt understand it, maybe ill try to explain it a bit better
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Hi Laurynas,
Pls try to understand the concept as explained hereunder...
Cost Element:
Primary Cost Element : Replication of GL to bring costs into CO module when they are posted in FI
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Secondary Cost Elements: Carriers of costs between two Cost Objects (when we want to transfer the
                                        cost from Cost Centers to Internal Orders, vice versa and more, we create
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Cost Center: It is a Cost Object, maintained on long-term basis, where we can capture the costs (Ex:
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Internal Order: It is also a Cost Object, maintained on shor-term basis, where we can capture the costs
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                      posted to this Internal Order, will get settled to Marketing Cost Center.
Staitistical Key Figure: It is used as a basis for allocation of certain expenses (Simple example would
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Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 3, 2009 7:26 PM

Internal orders - Cost centers

Hi,
My client has a requirment, For internal order PO's he wants to make Cost center as manadatory field, based on which they want to trigger work flow based on Cost center's
well my understanding is we cannot use Cost centers for Internl orders PO's, since internal orders are cost objects.
any suggestions on this this ?
any alternatives for triggering work flow for this internal orders ??
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Joe

HI,
For internal order PO's he wants to make Cost center as mandatory field, based on which they want to trigger work flow based on Cost center's
as per my knowledge if you use account assignment category K,cost center is mandatory field for that
check setting of K in OME9
where you have problem?
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Plant Maintenance Order planning costs transfer to Cost Centers.

Hello,
1. Capacity Planning
I'm trying to get planning information from a PM order back to a cost center.
I have planned operations in a PM order with a valid activity type and the work center is linked to the Cost Center.
But I cannot see any information in KSBL, Cost Center planning report.
I have tried KSPP - Transfer to Cost Center and KSOP - Transfer to Activity based costing.
Both come up empty.
What am I missing?
2. Costing.
I would like the planned costs in the PM order to settle to the cost center plan. But the PM orders are not configured for planned settlement (I believe that's an SAP setting).
How do I get the planned costs into a cost center's plan?
Thank you very much for your help,
Dan.

Thanks, but I'm trying to integrate the planning that happens in a PM order with the cost center. I was able to get planned costs from the orders via S_ALR_87012993.
the lack of planned settlement in a PM order is annoying. We do a lot of work on PM orders and settle actual costs to cost centers. It would be nice to use that same functionality (Operations, Components, task lists) to be able to plan costs and settle the planned costs to cost centers. Internal Orders can settle planned costs to cost centers, why not PM orders?
I believe the KSPP transaction helps to link the two objects somehow, but I can't get it to work. If anybody has any insights, that would be great.
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Scrap Sales GL , which type of cost centers need to assign in OKB9

Dear Seniors,
G L account : Scrap Sales:
For this GL a/c , cost element created with Cost element category u201C11u201D (Revenues).
Now in OKB9   i want to make assignments:
With each b.area and cost centers.
Now my doubt is :
In OKB9 which type of cost center I need to assign from the below.
1.Cost center should be with
Cost cntr category u201CFu201D (Production)
Or
2.Cost center category u201DVu201D (Sales)
and another doubts is , in Cost center -control tab: Actual revenues check box, should i select or not in any case.
Please clarify my doubt.
Thanks in Adv

Hi,
As scrap sales are revenue to the company, undernoted things to be noted here :
1. The cost element category is V - Sales and the control indicator actual revenues box to be unticked.
     The posting will be statistical for revenue elements.
2. The revenue recognition has to be equally done in VKOA for the account assignment of this account.
3. You can create a seperate order type for scrap sales and a sales pricing procedure in SD.
4. Check whether the scraps are defined to capture Tax Collected at Source, if so, you have to define
     condition types for them too.
5. If the material itself is defined as scrap material then in Material master the Profit Center would have
     been assigned and to capture the revenue assign the scrap sales revenue in VKOA.
Best Regards,
Sadashivan

Several cost centers in one sales order

The situation is.
Weu2019ve got the task to find solution how to create sales order document with several cost centers.
Now we use order reason to assign cost center in sales order.
We use only one order reason in one document and it means one cost center in one sales order document.
But we need to have opportunity to choose several cost centers. We mean assign different cost center for each item.
For example sales order items:
Material 1: Electricity u2013 X1 (cost center u2013 Y1);
Material 2: Gas u2013 X2 (cost center u2013 Y2 );
Material 3: Petrol u2013 X3 (cost center u2013 Y3);
u2026
Material n: Services u2013 Xn (cost center - Yn).
The document sequence :Quotation (VA21) -> SALES order (VA01) -> Billing (VF01)
Could you give me the recommendation or advice for this task?
Many thanks.

HI,
The Cost Center Determination settings is in OVF3, the standard works only at the header level though, so it would not work if cost center is needed on the line item.
For this case I suggest to try from CO view:
A material is linked to a profit center. From this profit center you can determine a cost center using txn OKB9
In combination with the material's account assignment field and account determination customizing, an alternate revenue account can be determined for this material. ("Normal" revenue accounts are to be used in combination with CO-PA).
If this account is a cost element with category type "1" you need the entries in OKB9.
Hope this help!
Regards!

Cost Analysis by Sale Order

Hello,
I'm seeking to enable in BI a Cost Analysis Scenario with repect to the Sales Orders. That is, something similar to the analysis you can easily perform in the R/3 area Accounting -> Controlling -> Product Cost Controlling -> Product Cost by Sales Order.
For instance in standard report KKBC_KUN, you can choose a sales order number and get all the cost elements related to that sales order, with the corresponding costs.
I have examined the following objects provided by the BW's Business Content:
- InfoCube 0PC_C01: it contains only the costs related to production orders, and not the costs associated with sales orders.
- InfoSource 0CO_OM_CCA_9: it seems interesting, in fact it delivers some header and line item data of the Controlling Object Document. Unfortunately it doesn't deliver the crucial characteristics Controlling Object and Controlling Object Type, which I definitly need for enabling my analysis scenario!!
(By the way, are these 2 characteristics delivered by the BC? There exists a 0COSTOBJ characteristic, but it's not used by any object in the flow afterwards. Moreover, I can't find a standard DataSource in R/3 which I can use to load either its attributes or its texts, and see what data enter it..)
Business Content for Product Cost by Sales Order), but none could help me.
It seems really weird that it's not possible to carry out a Cost Analysis by Sales Order in BW, so if anyone has some suggestion it'll be very appreciated indeed.
Thanks & Regards, Davide

I eventually found the following SAP Note. No BCT for this analysis scenario....
Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders
Symptom
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
Other terms
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
Solution
1. There are currently no DataSources for costs on sales orders in the standard BW Business Content. Unfortunately, there are currently no resources scheduled for a new development in this area either.
2. Therefore, the DataSources and the Business Content must be created in the customer project within the framework of consulting as a customer solution concerning the generic extraction options of the BW Service APIs or function modules you have programmed yourself for extracting data.
3. Technical background information about costs on sales orders:
The transaction data is available in the following R/3 tables
COSS and COSP - Totals records or COEP - Line items.
This concerns records for the VB* object numbers.
The master data of the sales orders is contained in the VBAK and VBAP tables.
The 0CO_OM_OPA_1 and 0CO_OM_OPA_6 DataSources only extract costs for orders with master data in the AUFK table. These types of requests always have OR* object numbers. Therefore, these DataSources cannot be used for sales orders.
However, you may be able to assign requests from the AUFK table (for example, maintenance orders or production orders) to a sales order through the AUFK-KDAUF table field.

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