Sales order ATP Check

As per our clientu2019s requirement during MRP run that stock as well as the receipts ( planned orders, Pos ) are not to be considered, we used the Storage Location MRP indicator (MRP 4 View, Storage Location MRP u2013 1), as a result Planned orders were created at plant level and were executed which was fine. During Sales order creation and availability check receipts are not considered as the availability check is carried out at Storage Location Level (Storage Location entry is mandatory while creating sales order ). Client wants to see the receipts while doing availability check in sales order and during MRP run they do not want to consider Stock and receipts.
Can you get back to me on the above.
*P.S:*
*It is MTS Scenario with Strategy 11--Mixed MRP2.*
*2)Activated the POs and planned orders in OVZ9 even.*
*3)Checking Rule assigned to the sales order type..*
Need a Quick Response on this.
Thanks in advance
Venkat Reddy
9963188858.

Hi All,
I would like to elaborate my question with an example:
For material A we have a stock of 1000 kgs.
There is order reservation(for other production order) for 800 kgs.
when I create a sales order for material A for 600kgs, I able to create delivery (i am able to confirm 600kgs even though the quantity available is only 200kgs)
Hope i have given a clear example.
Please suggest me what configuration/settings that is causing this behaviour.
Thanks & Regards,
Nataraj

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