Sales Order availability checks + date changes in POs v Proc Orders

Am getting into a knot about availability checks.
I have a MTO process. All my materials have the same planning strategy (MRP3) but are either inhouse manufactured/external (MRP2)
1. I create a sales order for a subcontracted material so MRP creates a Purchase Requisition which I convert to a Purchase Order..
OR
2. I create a sales order for a manufactured material so MRP creates a planned order which I convert to a Process Order
Let say I have a delivery date in the sales order of September 20th for both scenarios above.
1. For the subcontract PO, my delivery date is confirmed by the vendor as October 10th so I change the delivery date in the PO. If I run the availabilty check in the sales order, the sales order delivery date changes from September 20th to October 10th.
Perfect.
BUT
2. For the manufactured products, if I change the process order to have a Finish Date of October 10th due to a busy production line, when I go into my sales order and run the availability check, it still comes back with September 20th, i.e. ignores the date on the Process order. Why isn't it updating to October 10th?
My ATP check is set up to include Production/Process Orders. any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
Many thanks.

Hi Shiva
Here are my availability check settings in OVZG
All "Stocks" checkboxes are unticked except for "W/O Subcontracting".
All "In/outward movements" checkboxes are ticked.
X "check all planned orders"
X "Take all production orders into account"
X "Check releases for stock transport orders and requisitions".
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Please can you tell me the config that tells system to select the checking rule "A" during sales order availability check. The problem at my client side is that the system was using the checking rule "A" initially but suddenly it has started using checking rule "B" (delivery) for sales order. The item category being used in YAN and Scheduline Line category is YC (ATP and Allocation allowed).
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Checking rule is transaction based like A for SD sales order and B for SD delivery like that it is defined
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Every one and all SAP materials including myself say Checking Rule is transaction based and picked up by the system thro hard coded controls
But In t code OPJL it is possible to define new checking rules that means customization is possible
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For you the system is shifting the Checking Rule from A to B in the sales order itself means we can find out get where the said assignment is done
In OVZ9 remove the combination Checking rule B and your Checking group and save
You said the system has shifted its Checking rule to B from A
Now test it after removing this control in OVZ9 and see the system is shifting once again to A or throwing error as the control is removed in OVZ9
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This addresses only the availability check part.
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Presently we have set up availaiility check to sales order ( Availability check 02 -checking rule AE- make to order stock) and we have to maintain planned independent requirement through TCode MD61.
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Dear All,
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Availablity Check is not Plant Specific or Storage Loaction spefic .ATP does not check the stock for any particualar stock in storage loaction rather it cheks various stocks based inward and out ward movement time through PR/PO/Dependent /Planned Order /Stock Type irrespective of any Storage Location .
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1.BAPI_PRODORD_CHECK_MAT_AVAIL
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In sales order I when I enter the material availability happening.........
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Dear Sree sree
sales order is created for 100 units and stocks are there for only for 50 units on 01.04.2009 so the confirmed qty is given as 50 only on saving the sales order
On 02.04.2009 there are some stocks flowing in your plant /storage locations so on 02.04.2009 the qty becomes 250
Now on 03.04.2009 the sales order is due for delivery but in delivery only 50 units has come eventhough there are 250 units stocks
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The system response is very correct
If you want the system to confirm 100 units on 03.04.2009 this wont happen automatically
You have to put the order in VA02 mode and redo the availability check
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Go to OVz9 and press F1 in each and every check box
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Sales Order - Availability check for components

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I have 2 parts to my qns.
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As we know, availability check is controlled by the combination of checking rule and the checking grp.
U can see this at OVZ9 Screen. checking grp is proposed from material master Sales org 2 view or MRP2 views.
In the OVZ9 screen itself, we are setting what are all the stocks the system has to include when doing availability check.
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Every checking rule is allocated to a checking group: together these two elements determine the final inspection requirements. In addition, the checking rule includes a specification whether or not an availability check should take into account the replenishment lead time.
Currently, the checking rule is predefined in SD.
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Availability check with ATP logic can only promise the amount of stock that can be delivered to the customer on a particular date, it cannot reserve the stock until the order the saved. But once you save the order the stock allocation is done automatically.
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Hi Gurus,
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Jobi,
Our client is not following Assemble to order or even make to order. The typical production process followed is neither make to order nor make to stock.
Understood, although I am not sure why you are telling me what he has today; since your client has already told you his existing solution is unsatisfactory. I have described a solution that seems to meet the short list of business requirements that you described in your first post. I suggest you offer this solution to your client, unless he has already told you that ATO is not acceptable for some other reason not mentioned in your post.
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DB49

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