Sales Order Costing using prod version

Hi Guru,
My client use MTO and have prod version 1000 & 2000. When I create SO and choose prod.version 1000, prod.order created using BOM/Routing in prod.version 1000, so the prod order cost plan.
But in costing SO, prod version 2000 is use as base in qty structure, it's mean SO plan cost is based on prod version 2000, not 1000.
How the logic of SO costing ? where config to be set in order to get SO costing based on prod version choosen.
Reward will given to any input.
Thanks

You may want to have a look at OKK5 - Quantity structure determination.(QSD)
Choose the Quantity Structure control and double click. Then click on the BOM application. In there, there is section for override alternative selection from material master. There is a check box for production version. whose help reads as
This indicator shows that, when alternatives are selected automatically according to application, the production versions maintained in the material master record are used as selection criteria.
Dependencies
In the MRP view of the material master, in the requirements explosion data, the indicator for selecting alternative BOMs is maintained.
When you explode the BOM, only the alternatives for which selection by production version (2) is defined are taken into account for selection.

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Standard reports for Sale Order costing

Hi all
Can anybody Please tell sale Order costing reports.
Thanks
Sandeep

for doing mass sales order costing use CK55
or for individually in VA02 -->Extra --> costing.
& for report use KKAC.
rgds
Arpit.
Edited by: Arpit Shah on Jan 1, 2008 2:34 PM

Sales Order Cost Estimates -- Versions?

In our MTS plant we are creating cost estimates each month with different version numbers so they can easily be compared to review cost changes.
This concept in our MTO plant is (of course) a problem.
We would like to create a dummy sales order and on each line list a KMAT and build an "average" configuration. We use variant config, so the sales order bom is built automatically. It also costs automatically. We would like to save this cost estimate and compare it with a cost estimate of the same configuration next month. I do not have an option for version CK51n, nor do I see a Costing Date in KEKO table. Either of these items for MTS would create a second cost estimat and allow comparison.
Is there a way to compare Sale Order Cost Estimates across periods?
Any other suggestions as to how to obtain the required data??
Thank you for all suggestions!!

Any one think of a solution?
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Different versions in Sales order cost estimate

Hi,
Is it possible to calculate different versions of "sales orders cost estimate"?
Greetings.

Create another costing variant with a different valuation variant, while within valuation variant you can choose different things, among those is CO planning version for activity prices.

Sale order costing process : Help required

Hello All,
Belatted Happy New Year 2011 to all.
I have a question related to Sale Order Costing. It goes like this,
My client is into Pipe coating business who receives the pipe from the customers, coats it as per there requirements and despatches it thereon. There is no concept of FG here as its only the service he is doing on it and also when he receives the pipe there is no raw material cost on it. Raw materials for him would be chemicals etc which he uses to coat the pipe.
And also this demands variant configuration from SD and PP angel.
As this scenario is customer specific, it demands Sale Order based costing(Sale order cost estimate).
My doubt is, how the sale order costing process goes with.
In general scenarios, Make to stock, we use production order based costing where standard cost estimate is calculated for planned cost and actuals are incurred on PO settling the variance to COPA
Similarly how the costing goes with if Sale order cost estimate is used. What i think is, here instead of Standard cost estimate for plan, we will go with Sale order cost estimate at sale order level, and incur actual cost at production order and settle the cost of Production order to Sale order. Correct me if i am wrong, and request you ppl there to explain me the process of costing in the scenario said above.
apart from that, my client wants the flexibility to change the cost estimate at quotation level.
Please suggest me with solution explaining the process of costing here.
Thanks in advance,
Ravi Kumar

Hi Ravi
Your understanding of the scenario is very much right...
In your case, you need to have sales order as cost object...
Process
Your stock would be non valuated stock, because the FG is not your stock.. You are just doing a service
Based on the characteristics chosen in the Sales orders, system would determine the Sales order BOM
Based on sales order BOM, Sales order cost estimate would be calculated....
You would receive the Customer pipe in your stock against the sales order... It would be a non valuated GR... You can track the Qty only
Sales order would trigger a production order... The prod order can have its planned cost, which is only for information sake
The Customer Pipe, Chemicals would be issued to prod order to coat the pipe... And also Labor/machine hrs may be confirmed
There after your production order would be settled on Sales order
Then you would do PGI (Post Goods Isue).. This will not trigger any accounting doc
Then you do billing... The sales revenue would be posted on the sales order
Then you settle the sales order to COPA.. This will close the cycle
Configuration
The IMG Settings required would be as below
1. You would use account assignment category (AAC) E
2. Create a Requirement class with
a. AAC = E.... (Means sales order is CO Object)
b. Valuation Indicator = BLANK (Means Non Valuated Stock)
c. Costing ID/Costing Method = As per your choice to calculate the Sales order cost estimate
3. Assign this req class to Requirement Type
4. Give this req type to your PP/SD team.. They would assign it to Strategy group / Item Category to determine it in the sales order
Regards
Ajay M

MTO(Diff between complex make to order and sales order based mass prod)

Hi
We are using MTO...Can anyone tell me what is the Diff between complex make to order and sales order based mass prod in finance perspective?

Hi,
In the case of complex make to order scenario, through MRP, the Project shall be assigned to the sales order. Then there will be milestone billling and all. In the case of mass production MTO, it is only creation of production order for each sales order item and each sales order item shall have sales order cost estimate.
Trust this helps much and do encourage our efforts!
Cheers!
Edited by: Ashok Singh on Oct 28, 2008 6:53 PM

Non Valuated - Sales order costing

Hello All,
We are planning to use Non Valuated - Sales order costing for our client. My understanding is as follows :-
1. Production order is automatically created from Sales order created (for ex item 010 - Material X) : Production order 1
2. Sub- production order is also created if there is material Y , in the BoM of Material X & needs production : Production order 2 (linked to Production order 1).
3. When GR is done on any on these production orders - no FI entry is posted.
4. On settlement value of Production order 2 is settled in Production order 1.
5. Further Production order 1 value is flow to Sales order line item 010
6. Revenue is generated from Sales order for this item, when Invoice is posted. Still not COGS for delivery.
7. And only on settlement of this Sales order : FI posting is done for COGS.
Please let me know whether my understanding is correct point wise. Thanks
Now I have few questions to clarify, in above example :-
1. Generally these are new product (Material X) hence no standard cost is available for them. When does the cost estimate happens in such scenario. Is it when the first GR of material will happen ? When do I start see this cost estimate in Sales order.
2. Till the time Production order 2 & 1 are not settled ... Do we see WIP at the production order level when we run WIP calcualtion for production orders ?
3. What about the variances ? I have read variance calculation is not possible. Can you please elaborate why & what is avilable other than that ?
Thanks in advance for reading a long query

Hi Rajeshwari
1. If you use ABC - Then COGS split wont be available
2. Main diff between Valuated and Non val stock - Is once you produce and till you sell, the stock will appear in your balance sheet....
Non Val shud be chosen whe you make a material completely customized to the needs of a customer and the time lag between mfg and sale is very less....
If above two are not the case, then stock must be non valuated
3. Implementing the same template or introducing Val Sales order stock depends on the business needs.... The criteria to decide shud be based on (2) above
Also, if the new business where you are implementing now is the same as the existing business which is using non valuated stock, then you shud stick to the same template
4. Sales order cost estimate gets created during creation of SO, using the costing variant specified in req class... Not created during GR
5. Sales order costing does not make sense during Non Val Stock.... Unit Costing or prel costing you use during val Stock
Unit costing means you dont want to maintain a BOM... And you specify the components during sales order costing
6. I dont think you can settle prod order 2 to SDI.. You can try to change the settlement rule... In my opinion, you can not do it
Regards
Ajay M

Sales order costing - MTO Scenario

Hi Experts,
I am working on SAP ECC 6.0 on a Make-to-order scenario.
I have created sales otder; run MRP for the sales order and converted the planned order to Production order and confirmed the production order.
But I don't know the period end processes of make to order scenario. Please answer my following queries:
Whether WIP will be calculated at Sales order level or individual production order level related to this sales order?
Whether variances are to be calculated at each production order level or at sale order level?
Which t-code should be used for calculation of variances if it is calaculated at sales order level? The production orders have TECO status.
Whether variances are to be settled at sales order level or each production order level?
Which Transfer Control should I use in Costong Variant "Sales Order KDN" or "Complete Transfer"?
Please also forward me some documents, if you have, which explains the whole step by step cycle from creation of sales order to settlement of sales order.
My email id is [email protected]
Request your help.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Bijay Kumar Deo

Hi Bijay
To add few more checks and points - please note the following
1) Whether WIP will be calculated at Sales order level or individual production order level related to this sales order?
A) You need to selected RA for sales order in WIP RA version to ensure WIP is calculated for production orders which are linked to sales order
2) Whether variances are to be calculated at each production order level or at sale order level?
A) This would depend on whether u r following valuated or Non Valuated sales order stocks / costing
If is is non valuated u cannot determine variances, actual costs of production order are settled to sales order item
If it is valuated sales order following sales order costing, you can transfer production varainces to sales order item
3) Create settlement profile having sales order as valid receiver and assign profile to production type created for the sales order - MTO scenario
4) Which Transfer Control should I use in Costong Variant "Sales Order KDN" or "Complete Transfer"?
4A) Suggested to have complete transfer as transfer control strategy
Hope the above clarifies. Please assign points if useful as a way to say thanks
Any more suggestions / corrections to above points for the above scenairo are appreciated from forum members

In which scenario sales order costing is needed ?

Is it mandatory to have every time for a sales order to have sales order costing?
is it mandatory to have SO costing in MTO scenerios always?
in which scenerio SO costing is not applicable in MTO scenerio ?

Dear ,
POC is a Cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a materia.
Product cost collectors are independent of the production type. This means that you can collect actual costs on product cost collectors in the following production environments:
In order-related production (that is, when you are using production orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
In process manufacturing (that is, when you are using process orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
Repetitive manufacturing : In repetitive manufacturing you always use product cost collectors as cost objects.
Few important points from Forum Experts
u2022 Object in cost accounting used in Repetitive Manufacturing.
u2022 A separate product cost collector can be created for each production version or material. The collected costs are settled to inventory at the end of the period.
u2022 The functions performed for product cost collector during the period end closing process include :
u2022 Work in process (WIP) caculation
u2022 Variance calculation
u2022 Settlement
u2022 In Repetitive Manufacturing, all costs attributed to the production of a material are collected on a product cost collector and settled periodically (period-based Controlling).
u2022 The product cost collector is settled periodically according to the posting period (for example monthly) .
u2022 For a material , product cost collector is made for each version
u2022 The actual cost collected can be viewed through product cost collector
you cannot use product cost collectorsfor the following:
- Production orders or process orders that are manufactured for a sales order stock or project stock
- Production orders or process orders that are part of a collective order
- Joint production environments
Hope this will give you an idea .
Regards
JH

Sales order cost estimate with GIT account

Hi,
Business introduced Goods - in - Transit (Balance sheet account), so PGI will always post to GIT and Invoice it will get reversed.
For one of the Configuratble material (MTO) scenario we need the Sales order cost estimate to get the Planned cost.
When i try to execute the sales order cost estimate it says cost element doesnot exist for GIT GL (WHich is right).
But with maintaining the GIT how to achieve the sales order cost estimate.
I tried to create CE category 90 for GIT, in Cost estimate am getting error CE 90 not supported for Cost estimate.
Kindly help this is kind of urgent req for us
Thanks,
Sudha

Hello Ashley
Yes, if you have done your settings correctly, especially Requirements class set up (see the documentation link), then the cost estimate will flow to a condition type in Pricing, usually EK01/EK02 conditions. These conditions are used to calculate sales prices (PR00) in cost-plus (mark-up) scenarios.
Link: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
However Profit margin as calculated in a sales order comes from VPRS condition (which is based in Material Master) and is the difference of net value and VPRS condition value in normal circumstance.
Hope other more knowledgeable experts will weigh in.

Sales order cost estimate

hi,
While saving the sales order cost estimate its getting the GL account from GBB-ZG0.
as we assigned Balance sheet account its asking the cost element.
can you please explain what is link to get the gl from GBB-ZGO, can we change this to pick from GBB-VBR.
Thanks,
Sudha

Hi,
Are you are working with unvaluated special stock ? In this case, the system is looking for a consumption account via the account assignment category. For example if you are using requirement class ZPJ which uses account assignment category Q. In account assignment Q, you entered account modification VBR. Therefore, the system is looking for an account via the keys GBB / VBR.
regards
Waman

Sales order cost estimate not happening because of GIT B/S account

Hi,
Requirement is to have Goods in Transit account in PGI and reverse it in Invoice no issues iwth it.
For the same sales order user wants to get cost using sales order cost estimate.
When i run that am getting following error
Item 00001 : Cost element 14001212 does not exist in CO area 0010 for 10/07/2011
Message no. KK689
Even though i maintain the CE for Balance sheet account with Cost element category 90 its not accpeting.
Can you please help me on how to proceed for sales order cost estimate.
Thanks,
sudha

hi,
if you give a balance sheet account in obyc , you will not be able to create a cost elementin category 01 , accordignly system will give error in sales order costing , as its not able to get correct cost element in cost planning.
if your requirement is just to post cogs to a balance sheet account which is goods in transit and when invoice is done cogs to be posted.
you should actually use revenue based RA functionality on sales order instead of assinging a balance sheet account in obyc.
in this approach;
- first assign a p/l account in obyc and create cost element in cateogry 01.
- create revenue based RA and assign RA key in requirement class.
- in OKG8 for RA category WIPR and your ra key assign , goods in transit account and give a offsetting account which is not cost element (credit entry in offsetting account nullify debit in account given in OBYC when GIT is posted , when billing is done system will automatically post a oppsite entry in both account).
-in OKG8 for RA category COSR give the COGS account and a offsetting account without cost element (credit entry in offsetting account nullify debit in account given in OBYC when COGS is posted).
regards
rajesh

Sale order costing in Retail Business

Dear Experts,
We are supporting Retaill based clinet and also that same client using IS RETAIL ECC6.0. Now client is doing retail business as well as S&D also. Business needs that they want to see sale order costing for every trading goods ,which same sold to external customers through S&D customers.
1. Is it possible to get sale order wise costing for retail trading article (HAWA) type.
2.How can i make cost sheet for trading goods
3.How can i share or apportion palnned cost to sale order
Please support this appreciate and pls.forward user docs and customization settings for sale order costing.
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Sales Order costing error to prevent Plan Order generation in MRP run

Dear PP Experts,
We are into sales order costing due to Variant Config implementation.
Problem Statement: After sales order entry /Characterisitc value selection, while saving sales order , SO costing is auto triggered. Many a times one of the new Raw material price is not maintained( Purchase info record), hence SO costing occurs. SO costing is still saved, SO incompletion is not configured , so it is detected when Production order has 'No Target Cost'. This creates inconsistancy in FI postings.
My questions
- Can we set SO imcompletion for SO costing error( Standard Config?)
- Is there a enhancement to prevent MRP from processing Sales order with incompletion log i.e. Prevent MRP from generating Plan Order.
Best Regards,
Jatin

Hello Jatin
You can use BAdI MD_CHANGE_MRP_DATA to make the sales order not relevant to MRP.
Check the following document for an overview of the BAdIs available on MRP:
BAdIs for MRP
BR
Caetano

Planned order to prod order----order type and prod version/ routing

Hi,
My client produces a material in three different locations. The process at all the locations is same. Each location has the set of same work centers. We have differentiated the workcenters at the three different locations by naming conventions. I am mainting three counters in the routing with different set of work centers.
We want different order types for the production orders processed at these three locations. Also I should be in a position to select the routing/ production version manually for the production orders processed at the three different locations. When I am creating a production order manually, I can select the order type and even the routing or production version.
But here I am converting the planned order to production order. The system is picking the order type as maintained in OPPE. In OPL8 I maintained manual selection of prod version. But version 1 is selected default by the system. Can I have any control over the selection of order type and prod version/ routing?
Thanks and Regards,
Raghu

Dear,
Selection of production version is only possible at manual creation of production order, but not when converting planned order to production order. you can manually change the production version if u want to in the planned order.When you have a planned order it would default contain a valid production version. So system would just take the Production version in the planned order to use the same in Production order. If you want to change the production version in production order then go to CO02-FunctionRead PP Master data and change it.
(Goto OPL8 and select Manual Selection of Production Order in Production Version field
And in MRP4 view of material master select - Selection only by production version as the option for the Selection method field )
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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