Sales order costing with dependencies

Hello,
we have implemented a make-to-order sales order costing with configured materials.
The routing will be generated automatically based on dependencies.
Our problem: Costing is not based on the standard values shown in the routing operations but on values coming from dependencies. In some cases these values are different.
Our sales order costing should based in all cases on the standard values shown in the routing without using dependencies.
How can we realize this, any idea ?
Thanks you for your answers
Nitza

6.0
found somewhere in the coding that it's not possible for configured materials, what really surprise me

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we have a scenario where the production is started based on the sales order. The product is not standard product, for every sales order the product changes i.e. the material code should be created along with the sales order at the same point.
1. Bom is not available for all collective requiremnts at the time of sales order creation therefore the sales order costestimate calculated on the same day of sales order creation does not give the true picture
2. the chance is that the product that may be produced for the sales order may be after 6 months also, hence the production people are not ready to create bom for the sales order related product
my question is can we suggest sales order costing in this scenario.
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Hello Krishna
In this case, I think you should suggest for sales order costing with variant configuration since the product is not standard and changes for every sales order. The sales order BOM needs to be created and a cost estimate should be taken. If the details are not available then the sales people should edit the sales order through VA02 later and rerun the cost estimate. After the BOM is finalised the production process may start.

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It seems that the manufacturing variance is posting from the production order to the sales order, but is not being assigned to the PSEG and flowing to COPA.
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Refer to OSS 183250 and note 186485.
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Sales order cost estimate

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if you give a balance sheet account in obyc , you will not be able to create a cost elementin category 01 , accordignly system will give error in sales order costing , as its not able to get correct cost element in cost planning.
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Sale order costing process : Help required

Hello All,
Belatted Happy New Year 2011 to all.
I have a question related to Sale Order Costing. It goes like this,
My client is into Pipe coating business who receives the pipe from the customers, coats it as per there requirements and despatches it thereon. There is no concept of FG here as its only the service he is doing on it and also when he receives the pipe there is no raw material cost on it. Raw materials for him would be chemicals etc which he uses to coat the pipe.
And also this demands variant configuration from SD and PP angel.
As this scenario is customer specific, it demands Sale Order based costing(Sale order cost estimate).
My doubt is, how the sale order costing process goes with.
In general scenarios, Make to stock, we use production order based costing where standard cost estimate is calculated for planned cost and actuals are incurred on PO settling the variance to COPA
Similarly how the costing goes with if Sale order cost estimate is used. What i think is, here instead of Standard cost estimate for plan, we will go with Sale order cost estimate at sale order level, and incur actual cost at production order and settle the cost of Production order to Sale order. Correct me if i am wrong, and request you ppl there to explain me the process of costing in the scenario said above.
apart from that, my client wants the flexibility to change the cost estimate at quotation level.
Please suggest me with solution explaining the process of costing here.
Thanks in advance,
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Hi Ravi
Your understanding of the scenario is very much right...
In your case, you need to have sales order as cost object...
Process
Your stock would be non valuated stock, because the FG is not your stock.. You are just doing a service
Based on the characteristics chosen in the Sales orders, system would determine the Sales order BOM
Based on sales order BOM, Sales order cost estimate would be calculated....
You would receive the Customer pipe in your stock against the sales order... It would be a non valuated GR... You can track the Qty only
Sales order would trigger a production order... The prod order can have its planned cost, which is only for information sake
The Customer Pipe, Chemicals would be issued to prod order to coat the pipe... And also Labor/machine hrs may be confirmed
There after your production order would be settled on Sales order
Then you would do PGI (Post Goods Isue).. This will not trigger any accounting doc
Then you do billing... The sales revenue would be posted on the sales order
Then you settle the sales order to COPA.. This will close the cycle
Configuration
The IMG Settings required would be as below
1. You would use account assignment category (AAC) E
2. Create a Requirement class with
a. AAC = E.... (Means sales order is CO Object)
b. Valuation Indicator = BLANK (Means Non Valuated Stock)
c. Costing ID/Costing Method = As per your choice to calculate the Sales order cost estimate
3. Assign this req class to Requirement Type
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