Same colors print great in PS, muted in ID

Why do colors in a given graphic print differently from InDesign versus Photoshop?
As an example...I have a 300 dpi PSD graphic that is a background of reds and oranges, very vivid and saturated. When I print it out from Photoshop onto glossy paper, it prints beautifully and very accurate per the screen.
Then I import the same graphic into InDesign. When I print it out, using the same printer and paper, the color is very different. All the red tones and saturation is gone. The red and orange background is now muted browns and golds. The difference is striking. The graphic looks completely washed out, or even like a different graphic because all of the red tones are gone.
I have tried printing many different variations: changing the graphic from RGB to CMYK, making sure the color working spaces are the same between the two programs, the print settings, etc. I do not understand why this same graphic prints so wonderfully in Photoshop and yet so drab out of InDesign.
I am using a Mac (OS 10.5) with Creative Suite 3. Printer is an Epson R300. I have tried two other printers with the same results, so I've ruled out the printer as the culprit. I'm pretty sure it's an incorrect setting in InDesign. I would understand if programs from different software makers printed a graphic differently, but with all the connections between InDesign and Photoshop, the difference here should not be happening.
Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong in InDesign? If you need more information about my set up, let me know. Thank you.

The problems you are having are in part due to IDCS3 and in part due to Leopard. Do a search in this forum for "color printing InDesign".
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