Same Cost Element in multiple Controlling Areas

Can a same Cost Element under the Chart Of Accounts(CSKA) used in multiple controlling areas under the Chart Of Accounts or it should be used only by one Controlling Area. Then as Cost Element category is under CSKB (Cost elements (data dependent on controlling area)) it depends on Cost element and controlling area. So can a Cost elemtnt in different controlling areas has different cost element category. Is that possible as in that case COst ELement becomes GL Account in one Controlling area and doesnt have GL Acvcount in another.

Yes. Provided it's the same chart of accounts being used across all of the controlling areas. In the case of primary cost elements, you will still need to individually create the equivalent G/L accounts in every applicable company though.

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As long as the Fiscal Yr Variant is same between the two, you can use same Op Concern
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KA01 allow me to crete cost element one by one through reference but this will not solve the problem.
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no need to copy cost element from 1000 controlling area
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u can do that in Tcode - OKB2
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can we consolidate multiple controlling area with same chart account in SAP BI?
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Chart of accounts i.e. 0CHRT_ACCTS is an attribute of Controlling area. This means each Controlling area will have it's own chart of accounts. This chart of accounts could be similar in terms of content values. So it is possible to consolidate and produce a report which provides a summary of the chart of accounts.
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There is an organization with operations in several countries. There is a separate controlling area for each country. There is one controlling area, for instance, for Germany and another for Netherlands.
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Did you find any text in SAP Documentation saying that "SAP does not allow cycles belonging to different controlling areas to be executed at the same time"...?
Pls find the following text from SAP Help...
Parallel Processing of Cycles of an Allocation Type
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As per my requirement i need fetch the data from multiple controlling areas in to one report. please let us know how many ways are there? can i able to use controlling are in the column of the report. when i try to select the controlling area is not appearing in the coumn and it is appearing only in the gene

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You can select multiple Controlling area Please try with following steps.
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Is there any possible way I can find out which all cost element groups are coming under a controlling area?
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I have one leading ledger and two non leading ledger (i.e Group ledger and IFRS ledger). But Fiscal year variant is not mentioned for both the non leading ledgers.
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1) One Chart Of Accounts has one or more Controlling Areas. Is there any situation where One Controlling Area contains many Chart Of Accounts.
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3) In CSKB Table How do we know the corresponding Chart Of Accounts for the Cost Element.
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1) One Chart Of Accounts has one or more Controlling Areas. Is there any situation where One Controlling Area contains many Chart Of Accounts. Never
One controlling area can be assigned to many company codes, but all must have been assigned to the same chart of accounts only. This is the pre requisite for the so called cross company controlling
2) CSKA Table contains all the Cost Elements under the Chart Of Accounts. So does all these Cost Elements appear under CSKB Table. Are there any Cost Elements which doesn't fall under any of the Controlling Area and only exists under Chart Of Accounts Level in CSKA Table.
If some data exists in CSKA table, it mean that, it must have been created as a CE in any of the controlling area
3) In CSKB Table How do we know the corresponding Chart Of Accounts for the Cost Element.
In CSKB, you wont get the correspondant COA for the given controlling area. If you want to know it pass field value CSKB-KOKRS to table field TKA01-KTOPL to get the assigned COA
4) In CSKB Table Cost Element Category depends on both Cost Element and Controlling Area. So does a Cost Element can be Primary Cost Element for one Controlling Area which happens to be GL Account and Secondary Cost Element for some controlling Areas.
You cannot create a secondary cost elemant using a key matching with an GL code in cross company controlling. In case of both company codes assigned to different controlling areas this can be possible
5) Are there any Company Codes under the Chart Of Accounts which doesn't belong to any of the Controlling Area and doesn't have any Cost Elements.
Only In case of CO module is not active for the a company code
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