Same logiical system for 2 Business Service

Hi All,
Can two business services use the same Logical system name.
Regards,
XIer

<i>We have a scenario where we want to send files and also another scenario where we have to send a file.</i>
Not sure I got the point here
Logical System Names make sense only when dealing with SAP systems when trying to post an Idoc. For File System's they have no use at all.
Regards
Bhavesh

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Same Logical System Name, different Business System

Hi all,
I have a problem regarding SLD and Integration Directory. The client is requiring me to use the same logical system name for two different business systems. It seems that this is not possible in XI. When I tried activating the business system in ID, I'm getting the error, 'Logical system XXX already exists in communication component YYY'. Please help. Thanks!
IX

Hi,
You cannot have same logical name for two business systems....
Why you need it?? How will the SAP system understand which which system the message was sent for?? Some workaround like
1. Create a business system with this logical system
2. Overwrite sender/receiver business system in the receiver agreement for messages sent to 2nd business system..
This may lead to discrepancies....
Regards
Suraj

Logical System for RFC-Business system?

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I want use RFC adapter for my scenario like File to RFC.
The query is like, is there any importance to use Logical system for my Business System which is using for my RFC Adapter in my communication channel.
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Gopi

logical system name is relevant only for Idocs, but it is always a good idea to maintain the technical and business systems with all the information you can provide.
you can check the logical system names of ABAP application servers at bd54 tx code.
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http://e-docs.bea.com/alsb/docs26/pdf/deploybestprac.pdf
I've gone to the link to the User guide that it gives in there for "Using Dynamic Routing". And I've pieced together most of what I need to do. I have a dummy business service with a dummy URL. I'm making a service callout and getting and endpoint back and saving that endpoint address to a variable. (that's all in a stage in a pipeline node.) Then I dynamically route it to dummy business service. The part I don't know how/where to do is reassign the dummy business service's endpoint to the endpoint I got back from my service callout.
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</ctx:route>
where $yourBusinessService is the variable hosting the uri of your business service.
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I think this might a very stupid question but still would like to post it..:).. In a 3parties involved scenario, can 1 technical system be assigned to multiple business systems , if all business systems refer to the same 3 party..or does each 3rp party business system needs its own technical system..
Also I need to move only 1 product and the SWCV assigned to the product to QA..I do not want to export entire SLD..By exporting this single product and importing into the SLD of QA, I hope it will not overwrite the SLD components of the QA box but add this new product as delta.
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Hi Teresa,
>>>Also I need to move only 1 product and the SWCV assigned to the product to QA..I do not want to export entire SLD..By exporting this single product and importing into the SLD of QA, I hope it will not overwrite the SLD components of the QA box but add this new product as delta
I believe you can only do an incremental export/import
sld does not allow importing/exporting one product...
Remember to do a backup of your QA SLD
(from the SLD - administration)
then if you make a mistake nothing will happen
about the second question:
<i>"Business systems, which name the logical receiver independently of technical properties. For example, a business system might be a client of an SAP system.
Technical systems with which the hardware of the system is specified in more detail (server data, and so on)."</i>
this should be possible not only for SAP systems
Regards,
michal
Message was edited by: Michal Krawczyk

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I have a requirement to consume a 3rd-party RESTful web service from within WebLogic Integration 9.2.3.
My organisation also has an OSB 10.3 installation which is lucky since WLI 9.2.3 does not readily support RESTful service consumption.
My plan is therefore to proxy the RESTful service via the OSB with a SOAP proxy service and consume the proxy from WLI.
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Rob

I want to give it a try :)
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There are two production systems a copy of another, who want to connect both to configure the ALE, but by mistake, both systems were the same logical system when they made the copy. Since this change takes months. At the moment I can not make this change in BDLS because it is a productive environment.
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Hi Mark, thanks for the replay.
I understand also that the solution is to execute the BDLS to change the logical system and convert all tables to new logical system.
I don´t know how the process copy for both system productive.
The problem is that both environments are connected to BW, and other applications and they opened an OSS note to SAP consulting and and the answer given is that they did not recommend changing the logical system.
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Dynamic routing for a Business Service with multiple operations

I have two business services with multiple operations. Business service A (bsA) has operations OpA1 and OpA2. Business service B (bsB) has operations OpB1 and OpB2.
Depending on incoming Proxy message and operation, I have to do one of the following
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ALE logical systems for business service or process

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I am trying to send an IDOC into my R/3 system. It is the same IDOC type that I have sucessfully sent out to parties. All the config is in place for communicating with the system, because I have sent others IDOCs in the past. However, they always were sent from another R/3 business system. They processed sucessfully.
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Logical Systems in Business Services

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In Business Service creation, for Adapter Specific Identifiers, the parameter for the Logical System. It is only possible to assign one logical system to one Business Service ?.
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MyBusServ1, Z_LS_1
MyBusServ2, Z_LS_1
is not possible ?
When trying to assign Z_LS_1 to MyBusServ2 I get the error that Z_LS_1 is already assigned. Is there a way to circumvent ?, I do not want to create two logical systems in R/3 as the IDOCS types submitted by the Business Services are the same.
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Thanks for the replies
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Jaishankar - I am creating two IDOC's in SAP. MATMAS and PORDCR. The input file are coming from two different source systems. lets say sys1 and sys2. Both of thse for clarity are created in my scenario as Business Services. sys 1 creates MATMAS and PORDCR IDOC's int he syatem, sys2 creates PORDCR IDOC's in the system. As sys1 and sys2 are related in that they created the IDOC's as part od the same project then I would like to collect in the same partner profile in SAP e.g. Partner Profile ZPP_IDOC with IDOC types MATMAS PORDCR that serve as input for both systems. Logically I would assume that I can assing the logical system ZPP_IDOC to both the adapter specific parameter in both sys1 and sys2.
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Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference

Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
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involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
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Re: Business Service <--> Business System
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Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
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Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
Regards,
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Business service is not working in sender side but business system is working soap to idoc but why like that

i have scenario SOAP to IDOC
when i'm using business service in sender side it is getting an error as follows
sender message can not convert to ALE Logical system
in this i'm using altova spy as testing tool
my sender interface is asynchronous
but when i'm using business system everything is working fine
In sender side i'm using soap adapter,i checked the logical system everything is fine
mainly the problem is why it is working when i'm using business system rather than business service
my pi version is pi 7.0
thanks in advance
regards
satish

Hi Satish,
You are sending IDOC's to SAP system right. we should create Business system not business service.
so we should create the business system as web AS ABAP in SLD and import the same in ID.
When we create the business system in SLD the logical system name is assigned for the business system. like SAPCLNT100...It plays a key role in IDOC scenarios.
sender message can not convert to ALE Logical system
Reasons for this issue is
1) logical system name is unable to read from SLD for that corresponding business system.
Goto business system click on Adapter specific identifiers from the menu --> read from SLD.
it will automatically fetch the logical system name from the SLD.
2) Sometimes the logical system name will be deleted from the business system in SLD.
Delete the business system and re-create it, and follow the above procedure.it will resolve your issue.
Regards
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