Sample management & Sample determination
Hello Experts,
What is the difference between Sample determination and Sample management in Quality Management?
Please explain this with the simple example for better understanding.
Thanks in advance,
Anitha Pauline
Sample determination we define the following parameters,
Sampling types - Rules for determining the sampling instruction, The sampling type defines the basic conditions for determining the sample size for each inspection characteristic. A distinction is made between certain basic forms, such as:
100% inspection
Fixed sample
Percentage sample
Sample according to the sampling scheme
Adapt Rules for Sample Determination :To define or adapt the rules for determining samples, integrate the function module responsible for determining the sampling plan in your system. These rules form part of the function that supports the sampling type and are therefore dependent on the same parameters as this sampling type.
Sampling ProcedureA sampling procedure defines the rules that specify how the system calculates the sample size and it contains information about the valuation of an inspection characteristic during results recording (attributive, variable, manual, etc.).
Sampling procedures are usually used at characteristic level of a task list or material specification. You can however determine the sample size, without reference to task lists. To do this, you define a sampling procedure in the settings at plant level or for the inspection type in the material master.
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Hi ALL,
Inspection lot of type '04' ( Goods receipt frm production) is created , but it is in CRTD state..
Now if I click on sample button which is in QA02 under Sample tab...I get error as " No sampling procedure found for sample determination"
and If I click on the next sample button I get error as"No physical samples are assigned"...
I have maintained sampling procedure in the inspection plan....then why am I getting this error...>?
Thanks..
Regards,
Ameya K.I believe that you shoiuld check you inspection plan. I think you have specified in the plan header and/or the sampling procedures that you are to have physical samples created. (i.e. you get an object with a unique number in SAP for each calculated sample that can then be tracked, labels are often printed out for these).
You may not have configured up your system to use physical samples. Check you inspection plan header and your sampling procedures.
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Batch management & auto determination using *
Dear All,
i need to set batch management on RAW material and need to maitain stocks in batches,
Please guide me what i need to setin configuration and what on front end,
i am doing tis 1st time
so please guide me in detail,
ThanksHi
Config Setting In Batch Management
This will help you for config setting:
Logistics general - Batch Management
1.1. Specify Batch Level
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Specify batch level and activate batch status management Transaction OMCT
1.2. Batch Number - Activate Internal Number Assignment
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Number Assignment --> Activate internal batch number assignment Transaction OMCZ
1.3. Batch Creation - for Goods Movements
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1.4. Characteristic Value Assignment -- Update Standard Characteristics
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1.5. Activate Batch Classification for Goods Movements in Inventory Management
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Characteristic Value Assignment --> Valuation for goods movements --> Activate Batch Classification for goods movements in Inventory Management Transaction OMCV
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Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Access Sequences --> Define Production Order Access Sequences Transaction OPLF
1.9. Batch Determination u2013 Access Sequence(Cross Client)
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1.10. Batch Determination u2013 Strategy Types
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1.11. Batch Determination u2013 Strategy Types
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1.16. Batch Determination u2013 Batch Search Procedure Allocation
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1.17. Batch Determination u2013 Batch Search Procedure Allocation(SD)
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1.18. Batch Determination u2013 Activate Automatic Batch Determination(SD)
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1.19. Batch Determination u2013 Batch Selection Class
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1.20. Batch Determination u2013 Sort Rule
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1.21. Batch Determination u2013 Make Settings for Batch Where-used list
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I'm look for a solution to do planning of shipment time from external venodrs. In SD your are able to calulate the transport time for your Customer, this is also possible to calulate the shipment time on STO "intercompany purchase", here you get a shipment "tab" for each item on your purchase order, but can anybody tell me if it is possible to use the same functionally for external vendor on the purchase order, because it does not seem like your have the same functionally for doing route determination for external vendors.
Regards, LarsLars,
It is unclear to me why you would want to manage 'route' time for your vendors.
Generally, from a planning perspective, one wants to know 'from the time I become aware that I need to procure something from an external vendor, when can I plan to have the goods available in my RM warehouse, ready for issue to an order". The portion of that time required for transportation (route) is usually irrelevant.
In order to manage the events needed to plan vendor procurement, there are three values that can be set:
a. Purchase order processing time. This is configuration. The amount of time it normally takes for you to process a purchase requisition into a purchase order
b. Planned delivery time - Master data; can be maintained either in the Material Master, or in the Purchase info record. This is the planned duration from the time you place an order with a vendor to the time you can expect the parts to arrive at your facility.
c. Goods receipt processing time - set at the Material master. This is the planned duration from when the parts arrive at your facility to the time they can be made available as issuable stock in your RM warehouse.
Most planners find this adequate.
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Using computer manager to determine user session and files open in a remoteApp session
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I have remoteapp users the use Sage 50, QuickBooks and a MS Access based program.
When the users are connected to the remoteapp I cannot see them using the computer manager in windows 2008 R2 server, using taskmgr I can see the user on the networking tab, and on the process tab I can see the access, quickbooks, and peach (sage) processes
but I would think in computer manager I would see the quickbooks access db and sage files that the apps open but I do not. Is this normal and if so is there a way to monitor remoteapp users application /file use?Hi
If they are accessing the files locally then they will not show up in Computer Management. One way you can see open files is to use Process Explorer. In Process Explorer you can select the process and then in the lower pane view you will see
file and other handles (make sure lower pane view is set to Handles on the view menu).
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Hi Gurus,
I have a material with MAP and a stock of 20 Kg received on PO. Now I want to receive 30 kg on different po and it ask me to create Account determination for price different account.
Material is having Handling Unit associated with.
Thanks
RajaHi,
Using transaction code OBYC , check if account assignment is done for the posting key "PRD" or not, in the client that you are running the transaction.. If it is missing , update with apprpriate G/L account for posting the price differences .You will be able to resolve this error.Because the G.l accounts fall under master data , probably you have to do the assignment in all the clients for respective valuation areas( it may be missing in one of the clients , where you are currently facing the error )
( How ever in valuatioon and account determination process , the Price difference account is posted if
1) The material is valuated at Standard price and goods receipt is done at a different price - at the time of GR, subsequently at the time of Invoice verification.
2) If price difference is observed between the GR and the Invoice and if sufficient stocks are not available to post the value to stock account - in case materials are valuated at Moving average price.
Since you are stating that the system is asking for Price Difference account at the time of GR - the materials must be valuated on Std price, please confirm if the material vlation is with MAP and even then its asking for PRD accounte determination. )
Hope this information helps and I am looking for your reply also.
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raghuramam. -
Valuation mode in sampling procedure
Dear all,
I have a doubt that if we ll give valuation parameters as Attributive inspection while creating sampling scheme and we can assign the same sampling scheme in ths sampling procedure. But in the sampling procedure if we choose valuation mode as Manual valuation means what will happen?
My question is while we are performing usage decision,
On what basis system ll perform usage decision, whether it based on manual valuation or attributive inspection.
Kindly clear my doubt.
Regards
KarthikHi,
An attributive inspection (OK or not OK) is an acceptance sampling inspection. This means that the number of nonconforming units or the number of defects in a sample determines the acceptability of the inspection lot. ISO 2859 serves as a standard for attributive inspections. The Quality Management component has two valuation procedures for attributive inspections:
Attributive inspection based on nonconforming units
Attributive inspection based on the number of defects
For an attributive inspection, you determine the number of defects or the number of nonconforming units per sample size. Depending on the recording form, you either enter the results or the system determines these results from the single values.
The inspection result is compared with the acceptance number and the rejection number for the characteristic in question. The inspection characteristic is accepted if the number of defects or the number of nonconforming units does not exceed the acceptance number. The characteristic is rejected when the rejection number is reached or exceeded. If the result falls between the acceptance number and the rejection number, the characteristic is accepted (but rejected for the dynamic modification valuation).
An attributive valuation is also possible when the rejection number is reached with a smaller sample size or when the acceptance number is not exceeded with a larger sample size. In all other situations, you must use the sample size defined in the sampling plan.
-Keerthi -
How to customize the standard t.code of QDV1 with accepting fixed sample 0
Hello...
Could you please advice me, From the Functional point of view , I have to develop a function module for sample determination which calculates sample size=0 by using the Standard Function module of QDRS_FIXEX_SAMPLE and t.code of QDV1
so..can anybody suggest me , how we customize it?. Currently when we use QDV1 t.code it wont accept Zero input for which i'm looking for. Thank you.
Regards
MallikarjunRoy,
Try applying search filters e.g search for a* ,b* ....
try {
IUserFactory userFactory = UMFactory.getUserFactory();
IUserSearchFilter searchFilter = userFactory.getUserSearchFilter();
searchFilter.setFirstName("a*",1,true);
ISearchResult searchResult = userFactory.searchUsers(searchFilter);
while (searchResult.hasNext()) {
//do something
Tegala -
Mass release of Physical Samples
Hi Gurus,
Is there any T code for Mass release of Physical samples. We are in cutover and for around 1000 Open inspection lots, we need to release the physical Samples. It will be labourious to release every sample using QPR4.
Tried LSMW, SHDB but the release is not getting recorded. Is there any other way for releasing physical samples in mass?
Thanks in Advance.
regards,
senthilDear,
Please check in QPV2. There is one check box. this is determine the automatic sample determine.
check box is Confirmation req. Please remove this check box.
-Sandip
Edited by: Sandipsinh Shaktavat on Mar 6, 2012 12:15 AM -
Dear SAP Experts,
I have created inspection lot for a material with movement type 101 against a Purchase order in developmet client. I have attached inspection plan to it. In inspection plan sampling procedure & sample drawing procedure are used. According to it Sample calculation is also done. Now the inspection lot is in released status. When I go for result recording system does not allow me for result recording. When I investigate, I observe that the physical samples (both primary & pooled) are in CRTD status. They are not in result status thats why system does not allow the result recording. Please note that I have not used any user status which may prohibit release of physical samples.
I think, after releasing the lot, physical samples must automatically have release status. Is my assumption correct?
If not how the physical samples can have release status automatically?
Kindly help in this regard. Your valuable help is appriciated.
Regards
VivekDear,
Please check in QPV2. There is one check box. this is determine the automatic sample determine.
check box is Confirmation req. Please remove this check box.
-Sandip
Edited by: Sandipsinh Shaktavat on Mar 6, 2012 12:15 AM -
Classification on Physical Sample Screen
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I want classification system on physical sample screen.
Thanks to all.>
sridhar kodi wrote:
> I had created a sampling proedure for an inspection plan , but during samples generation by the system they are getting generated for different plants .has Physical Sample determination has any dependency on the plant ?
Please understand.
SP we can create client wise. Same SP we can use for different inspection plan of diff Plant.
System will create physical sample with reference to inspection lot. If you have assigned same SP to two diff insp plan of two diff. plant (0101 & 0102). When lot for 0101 plant then physical sample would be for 0101 plant & lot for 0102 plant then physical sample would be for 0102 plant.
Hope this helps.
Thanks!!! -
Make Draw Procedure and Sampling Procedure Quantities Match?
I need to set up an inspection plan where one item is taken from each container and combined into 1 pooled sample. The items in the containers are in eaches and the number may vary from container to container. Think 5 buckets filled with pebbles. I want to end up with a pooled sample that is a total quantity of 5, total containers to sample is 5 and sample size per container is 1.
On my inspection plan, my Sampling Procedure is set for a fixed sample size of 1.
The number of buckets may vary from shipment to shipment, so my Draw Procedure is set to have the number of primary samples be P2. However, when I set the number of pooled samples to 1, I end up with sampling instructions that say to take 0.2 pebbles from each of 5 buckets.
I can set up the Draw Procedure to only have Primary Samples and my sampling instructions will show 5 primary samples but it will not indicate that they should be taken 1 per container.
Setting my fixed sample size to 5 solves this particular problem but as my material may arrive in 6 containers next time, it is not a long term solution.
It seems to me that I need to be able to set my sample size to also vary based on the number of containers. I can't do that using a pebble to bucket conversion, as this is not a constant number. Ideally I would like a Sampling Procedure with a sample size of P2.
Is there a way to create a Sampling Procedure that varies based on the number of containers received? Or is there another option?
Thanks,
DebYou can achieve this by using Sampling Determination "300-Sample schema" If require modify Function Module "QDRS_SAMPLING_PLAN_SAMPLE"
Thanx!! -
Batch determination & Batch Management
Hi Gurus,
Can anyone plz send me the batch determination screen shots in SD point of view urgent to my mail [email protected]
ThanksHi Ngassom,
BATCH DETERMINATION:
We use batches in SD where the materials are produced under one batch and they are given the shell life expiry date for each batch,
A1) Normally we use batch determination at delivery level, because at the time of order material may or may not be created. For this material should be configured with batch and batch determination should be checked in sales views of material.
A2) Batch Determination during order Creation.
For this you need to maintain Classes d for you Material. Depending on the Manufacturing process you can define the characteristics for your material.
Ex: Purity for Medicines, Resistance for Electric Items.
You need to create a class (You might have to create a new class type) which incorporates the characteristic.
First Create the Characteristic Using CT04 and then using CL02 create the Class including this characteristic.
Then in your material master Classification View Enter this class.
Then Create a Batch for the particular plant and Storage Location using MSC1N.Give the value of the characteristics in this batch.
Then go to SPRO ->Logistics General ->Batch Management and maintain the Condition Technique (Procedure, Strategy Types and assignment to sales docs etc).
Then Create the Batch Determination Record using VCH1.
Config Setting In Batch Management
Logistics general - Batch Management
1.1. Specify Batch Level
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Specify batch level and activate batch status management Transaction OMCT
1.2. Batch Number - Activate Internal Number Assignment
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Number Assignment --> Activate internal batch number assignment Transaction OMCZ
1.3. Batch Creation - for Goods Movements
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Creation of new batches --> Define batch creation for goods movements Transaction
1.4. Characteristic Value Assignment -- Update Standard Characteristics
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Characteristic Value Assignment --> Update Standard Characteristics Transaction
1.5. Activate Batch Classification for Goods Movements in Inventory Management
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Characteristic Value Assignment --> Valuation for goods movements --> Activate Batch Classification for goods movements in Inventory Management Transaction OMCV
1.6. Batch Determination Condition Table (Cross Client)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Condition Tables --> Define production order condition tables Transaction OPLB
1.7. Batch Determination Condition Table (Cross Client)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Condition Tables --> Define SD condition Tables Transaction V/C7
1.8. Batch Determination Access Sequence (Cross Client)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Access Sequences --> Define Production Order Access Sequences Transaction OPLF
1.9. Batch Determination Access Sequence (Cross Client)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Access Sequences --> Define SD Access Sequences Transaction V/C2
1.10. Batch Determination Strategy Types
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define Production Order Strategy Types Transaction OPLE
1.11. Batch Determination Strategy Types
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define SD Strategy Types Transaction V/C1
1.12. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define IM Search Procedure Transaction OMCY
1.13. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define Production order Search Procedure Transaction OPLG
1.14. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define SD Search Procedure Transaction V/C3
1.15. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure Allocation
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Allocate IM search procedure/activate check Transaction OMCG
1.16. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure Allocation
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Assign Search procedure to production order Transaction OPL8
1.17. Batch Determination Batch Search Procedure Allocation (SD)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Allocate SD Search procedure Transaction V/C5
1.18. Batch Determination Activate Automatic Batch Determination (SD)
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Activate Automatic Batch Determination in SD -->For delivery item categories Transaction V/CL
1.19. Batch Determination Batch Selection Class
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define Selection Classes Transaction CL01
1.20. Batch Determination Sort Rule
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Batch Determination & Batch Check --> Define Sort Rules Transaction CU70
1.21. Batch Determination Make Settings for Batch Where-used list
Menu Path Enterprise Structure> Logistics General> Batch Management --> Make Settings for Batch Where-used list Transaction OMBB
Hope this helps you.
Please Reward If Really Helpful,
Thanks and Regards,
Sateesh.Kandula -
Batch Determination While Goods Issue
How To Active batch Determination at the time of issue the goods
I have done following SPRO setting .
Strategy type --> YB01
Inventory managment Search Procedure --> YB001
Allocation IM Search Procedure -->> 261assigned to YB001 along with Active "Check batch"
In MBC1....for Search Startegy YB01 , for combination of Movement Type/Plant/Material ,materil assignement made as
material 40100
No. batch -999
Changed Allowed : Check
Uom : B
Mproposal : Active
Material Master of raw Material 40100
Material Master batch Management tick active
Classifcation view : Class As Shelf life
Characheirstics :Remaining Shelf Life
Now i have cretaed prodcution order of 10 qty ..
I have Four Batches With Differnt Life is available in Stock...
Now i want to see this Four batch at The time of Issue so that i can select one of the batch for issue..
Right now i m not getting Batch determination ..
What else i have to do ...
Please Guide..Dear,
Have you created the sort rule in ACU70 with LOBM_VFDAT?
Have you assigned the sort rule in MBC1?
Also check Implementation Guide for R/3 Customizing (IMG)-- Logistics u2013 General-- Batch Management--Batch Determination and Batch Check -->Batch Search Procedure Allocation and Check ActivationAllocate IM Search Procedure/Activate Check
Assign for 261 mov type - YB0001.
Same need to assign in OPL8 also please try and come back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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