Sample size calculation for Source Inspection

Dear Gurus,
I have an issue regaring sample size calculation for Source Inspection.
I created a PO for 500 nos.
The sampling procedure assigned in the Quality Plan is %age based (10%).
When Inspection lot is created, system is caluating the Sample size as 500 and not 50.
Moreover, when I go to Result Recording, the Inspection qty for the MIC is shown as 1. If the system is calculating sample size as 500, then the inspection qty for the MIC should also be 500. Moreover, the sample size should be 50 only.
Please provide your inputs on this.
Regards,
Nitin

Thanks Sujit!
Your are correct. It works in the same way as u told.
Assigned you the points for the answer.
Closing the thread.
Regards,
Nitin

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Dear SAP Gurus,
I have one doubt regarding Sample calculation for Inspection lot. Please give your inputs on this.
The sceanrio is like this -
1. A Quality Plan is created with one operation (operation # 0010)
2. To this operation 0010 in the quality plan, 2 MICs are assigned.
3. For the 1st MIC, a 100 % inspection sampling procedure is assigned.
4. For the 1st MIC, a sampling procedure with Percentage sample (Sampling type - 400) is assigned.
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Thanks Sujit!
Your are correct. It works in the same way as u told.
Assigned you the points for the answer.
Closing the thread.
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For source inspection.
If existing insp types are not going to solve your purpose , you can create insp type & assign it to insp lot origin 01.
But before that , check whether you can use the existing insp type 01 / 0130.
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