Sandy bridge is ok now I hope? New build help.

I did do some searching on here and am building a new machine to work with ppcs5.5 .
This forum has the best tech guys I have ever seen so I will do my best out of respect to make my text ramblings clear lol.
I have built the Videoguys DIY 8 system http://www.videoguys.com/Guide/E/Videoguys+DIY9+Its+Time+for+Sandy+Bridge+E/0xe9b142f408a2 b03ab88144a434e88de7.aspx
I also have 5 drives at my disposal. 1= OS drive/boot, the other four still up in the air on best setup for this machine. I did look at Harms generic disk displays and might
have an idea but open to whatever advice is offered. Ok advice would be still awesome. ; )
I guess I am just making sure theis setup with the 17 2600 is a good choice for cs5.5 and 6.
I did see some negatives on the forum about it. I have one day till I must decide to keep or return lol. Ouch.
Thank you for your time guys. I mena that.
David

David,
This looks like a nice system you are building. You are ahead of me.
Disk setup is a rather complicated matter, and especially with tapeless formats, since then backup really becomes an issue. From a performance POV raid0 is very nice, it is fast and cheap, it does not require a dedicated controller, it can be run from the mobo with minimal CPU overhead, but if one drive fails, all your data are irretrievably lost. That is thus the downside of raid0. Have a look at the 'featured discussion' about raid and rebuilding issues at the top of the page, it may be helpfull.
Also have a look at http://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972?start=0&tstart=0 and similar articles.

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Syncing on new PC and I now have a new iPhone, help!!

Hi All,
The issue I have is that the iPhone 3GS I use at the moment was first synced on an old PC. That PC died and I have been syncing to a new PC. However, when connect to iTunes, it will keep a copy of any new Apps and updates. It will also update the iSO software. However, If I click on my phone (listed on the left side of the iTunes screen and then choose movies or music etc.. The sync option brings up a window saying that the phone was not synced to this PC. to do so will remove all data from my phone.
Is there anything I can do? I still have the old hard drive that I could link to my new PC and get off any itunes files? Will that help?
The other issue I have is that I have just upgraded my phone contract as was able to get a new iPhone 4s . I want to give my old 3gs to my wife. Is it as simple as taking out my old sim card and putting hers in? Also, how will itune behave if I not have two iphones syncing to the same PC?
Sorry for the odd questions. But I'm sure you lovely people can help.
Thanks

Syncing to a new iTunes library or computer will erase your phone. Only if you back up manually before syncing, you can restore your device from that backup again. A manual backup does not include the sync process.
Do this:
Disable autosync in iTunes, connect your phone to your new computer and right click on it in the device list and choose backup. iTunes will backup your device without syncing.
Transfer your purchases the same way, choosing "transfer purchases" this time.
When you connect your phone for the first time, all media content will be erased. But you can restore your settings and app data from your manual backup afterwards.
Don't forget to set up at least one contact and event on your new computer to be able to merge calendars and contacts when you sync the iPhone for the first time.
Music is one way only, from the computer to your device, unless you bought the songs in itunes and transferred your purchases.
There is 3rd party software out there, but not supported by Apple, see this thread:http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2013615&tstart=0
About backups and what's saved:iTunes: About iOS backups
How to back up and restore:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1414
How to download apps for free again:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2519
Saving other data is also described here. How to back up your data and set up as a new device
As for the second phone, iTunes will recognize each device as a separate phones and remember all settings for each one.
Switching the SIM will work if your phone is not locked to a provider anymore and your wife has a dataplan as well. If the phone is officially unlocked by your provider, she can use it with her SIM, but make sure to set up a dataplan for the phone, using mobile data without a contract can be very expensive.
To prevent from mixing the contacts and events for each one, you can create a new Windows user.
More info here:
How to use multiple iPods, iPhones with one computer

Is the new 13-inch 2.3GHz MBP Sandy Bridge?

Hi,
While I have been looking with interest at the new MacBook Pro models released today, I've also been looking on the Intel website to get an idea of the Turbo Boost 2.0 speeds of each model, but I cannot find a Core i5 2.3GHz chip listed anywhere!
This is what I have found so far:
13-inch 2.3GHz i5 = Intel ????????
13-inch 2.7GHz i7 = Intel i7-2620M (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.4GHz)
15-inch 2.0GHz i7 = Intel i7-2630QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 2.9GHz)
15-inch 2.2GHz i7 = Intel i7-2720QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.2GHz)
17-inch 2.2GHz i7 = Intel i7-2720QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.2GHz)
15/17-inch Option 2.3GHz i7 = Intel i7-2820QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.4GHz)
Does anyone know what the entry level 13-inch chip is and what it's Turbo Boost 2.0 speed is or is it an older i5 and not a Sandy Bridge revision?
Thanks to anyone who can help!

I seem to have solved my own question!
The 2.3GHz chip used is the i5-2410M, and fits into the range like this
13-inch 2.3GHz i5 = Intel i5-2410M (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 2.6GHz)
13-inch 2.7GHz i7 = Intel i7-2620M (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.4GHz)
15-inch 2.0GHz i7 = Intel i7-2630QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 2.9GHz)
15-inch 2.2GHz i7 = Intel i7-2720QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.2GHz)
17-inch 2.2GHz i7 = Intel i7-2720QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.2GHz)
15/17-inch Option 2.3GHz i7 = Intel i7-2820QM (Turbo Boost 2.0 = Max 3.4GHz)
I do wish that Apple would make this kind of information more available, especially on the newly updated MBP web pages, as it's important for the buyer to know exactly what's been upgraded rather than just saying "up to X.XGHz", as it doesn't really tell you very much!
Thanks to all those that helped!

Sandy Bridge (i7-2600K) vs Bloomfield( i-950)

I'm getting ready to do my build and the last thing I'm trying to decide on is to go with the newer Sandy Bridge platform, or the older Bloomfield. In some bench marks (non-Premiere related), it seems that the Sandy Bridge is faster, uses less power, etc...
However, when it comes to purchasing memory, I can only get 16gigs (4 dual channel memory slots) on the Sandy Bridge platform right now, vs 24 (6 triple channel memory) on the Bloomfield.
The chips themselves are priced within $50 of each other, so this isn't really a cost thing, but more of a what "platform" is better.
Any thoughts and links would be appreciated...

Adobe Forums: Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or...

Is it too early for someone to reccomend a build with one of the new Sandy Bridge CPUs?

Hi all I need to build a new PC and was told to wait until the new Sandy Bridge CPUs were out.
This will be my first build but I'll have some help from my brother putting it together.
I'm coming from working in CS3 on Vista 32 and want to build a PC to run Windows7 64 and CS5.
As for a monitor I think I'm going to get a NEC MultiSync EA231WMi 23". The reason being it is a cheap IPS. The only other one I was looking at is a ViewSonic VP2365wb but the NEC has better reviews. If anyone has any other recommendations for an IPS in that price range, I'd be grateful.
For a case I'm going to go with a Silverstone SST-FT02B Fortress or a FRACTAL DEFINE R3.
As for the guts, I'm a little lost.
I was going to get a 60gb SSD to stick the OS on but I see Harm Millaard reccomending a Velociraptor over on this thread. I didn't know what one was but I looked it up and discovered it was a 10,000rpm 300gb hard drive that costs about $280. Is that right? Are there cheaper and smaller versions?
As anyone any reccomendations on what other Hard drives I should get and what RAID I should use? My budget for the whole build is mid range I suppose.
So that brings me to the CPU, GPU and MOBO.
Does anyone know enough about the new Sandybridge CPUs to reccomend one and which motherboard I shoud get? Do I need a seperate GPU still. People are talking about it having an integrated GPU.
I suppose I would like to have 12gb of RAM with an option to upgrade to 24. I initially thought 8gb would suffice but people on here seem to be using 12 or 24.
Thanks for any advice.

common sense Harm,
our not oced Sandy bridge ranked 13th beating any stock processor. (for some reason you have it listed as OCed)
remove the absurbly overpriced Xeons that makes it 8th
remove every OCed processor its now #1.
and its #1 without the absurd 8-12 drive raid arrays... which most people have no need for.
for the average user your recommendation like mine was the 950 stock 950 which ranks 40th is severaly beat by the 2600 not oced..
so your replacement recommendation should be as mine is, the 2600 over the 950 all day long..
anything less you are arguing with your own bencmark?
but just for giggles i am having Eric resubmit with an SSD OS and a 8 drive raid the OCed to 4.7GHz system.
Scott
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New Sandy Bridge GPU Drivers?

I saw in an article (and of course now can't find) that Intel had released new Sandy Bridge graphics drivers. Has anyone seen or tried these, and what did you find out?
Edit: Found it --- http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20109037-1/sandy-bridge-driver-update-boosts-windows-game-perfor...
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I downloaded the zip file version of the driver then followed the manual installation instruction in the readme file to get it installed.I had a problem using the EXE version because I am always prompted with this message:
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whenever I launch the EXE installer.
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Sandy Bridge processors in new iMacs issues.

Hello
Does anyone know if any of the faulty Sandy Bridge processors which were produced at the start of the year made it into this iMac refresh? Or did Apple wait until the updated versions were produced before using them in their macs? By updated versions I mean the completely non faulty new versions of the chips not the ones that went back to intel and they just patched them up before sending them back out to vendors.
I am in the market for a 27" i7 iMac upgrade but this is the only issue stopping me from buying one straight away. I was thinking of leaving it a few weeks for the initial stock which may contain these faulty chips to sell through then hopefully get an iMac from a newer batch.

I'm sure it's pretty safe to say there are no issues with the current crop of Sandy Bridge procs in the 2011 refresh. Apple would make sure they'd cleared up any problems before rolling out the new iMacs, and If I recall correctly, Intel resumed shipping the corrected chips back in mid February. You should be fine.

New MBA Sandy Bridge Graphics vs. Current NVIDIA

Is anyone here familiar with the new Sandy Bridge Intel Graphics and the current MBA's NVIDIA offering? I've read that the new Intel IGP is supposed to be "on par" with the NVIDIA chip, but I'm curious if this will actually be the case, or if it's possible that Apple will have Sandy Bridge alongside a dedicated mobile video card still - or if the new MBA graphics will disappointingly lag behind in graphics.
Thanks!
.t2h

Hi Take,
If you ever have a chance to browse the MacBook Pro forums, you'll find that a lot of people weren't aware of Apple's design decision. What's worse... these are from people that already bought the machine. I suppose if you're an "old school" Apple person then you just assumed that the Pro line has the discrete. You figure until the introduction of the 13" MBP and Apple's brief experiment with the cheaper entry point of the 15" MBP, all of the MacBook Pros had discrete GPUs, whereas the MacBook had the shared.
Even more surprising was that the recent refresh of the 13" MacBook Pro didn't include the LCD panel found in the 13" MacBook Air with the 1440x900 resolution, it's still using the 1280x800.
Unless you're an avid gamer, the Intel HD 3000 & Nvidia 320M are perfectly adequate. I've yet to encounter a game I couldn't run, albeit, on lower settings. Regarding the update, we'll have to wait and see. But it's no secret that the recent refresh of the MacBook Air was a huge success for Apple (they're very public about that), so you'd have to assume that Apple will continue to ensure that it stays current with technology.

We recently switched ISPs. To connect to the new ISP our Airport Extreme has to be in bridge mode. Now our Nintendo Wii won't connect to the Airport. Is it an issue with bridge mode that is causing this?

We recently switched ISPs. To connect to the new ISP our Airport Extreme has to be in bridge mode. Now our Nintendo Wii won't connect to the Airport. Is it an issue with bridge mode that is causing this? We're running two Macs wirelessly with no problems. And the Wii did connect before the switch.

Hello and thanks for the reply. I gave this a try, turned off Airport on one of the computers and tried the Wii again. Still no connection. I should say that we're also running an old G4 (wired) off the Airport as well, with no problems. I've tried many things to make the Wii to work, including power cycling the Airport, turning off the security settings in the Airport, resetting the Airport to it's default and redoing the network, resetting the network setting on the Wii (several times), moved the Airport closer to the Wii, all with no luck. The Wii "sees" the Airport but won't connect to it. I'm at a loss for anything else to try, so any help is appreciated.

? for the experts regarding the HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition (with the new Sandy Bridge CPU's)

Hello,
This is a question for the experts.
The HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition has the following GPU:
1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics
Is this GPU GDDR5 or DDR3 in this laptop? I know someone that purchased one from a MicroCenter and it shows GDDR5 on the packaging (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bravoexo/5298674802/) and in GPU-Z, but I called HP support and they said it was DDR3 (although, HP support told me that GDDR5 didn't exist and that DDR3 in GPU's were the most advanced to this date).
Please let me know ASAP, as this is a main factor in me purchasing this or not. I can find other DDR3 gaming laptops out there for less, but if this really IS GDDR5, then I'm sold.

Thank you both for your questions and answers, I was wondering the exact same thing. I'm ashamed to admit I already began the process of perchasing this computer prior to having all detailed specifications made available.
I'm upgrading from a 13.3 inch HP laptop called the dv3510nr. It was never intended for enthuiast gaming, but it has exceeded the sum of its parts. It does have dedicated graphics, backlit keyboard, other novelties that make it the best computer I've personally ever owned.
Few people can say they've managed to run Fallout 3 or Supreme Commander at maximum detail on a 9300M GS. It has 512 MB of DDR2 memory, 4 GB system memory and a 25W P7350 Core 2 Duo processor (2.0 GHz)
Its served me well but mobility is no longer a priority. I waited until Sandy Bridge was announced and took the plunge immediately. 6 GB of DDR3 RAM, a 6570 with 1 GB, 1600 x 900 display AND best of all:
-The i7-2720 quad core processor, (2.2 GHz, up to 3.3 GHz with Turbo Boost)
--for a total price of just over $1,000 after taxes. With 2 year warranty standard.
For brand new, bleeding edge technology not yet even widely available, at such a large upgrade margin at an absurdly low price; I didn't need to know anything else.
So imagine my excitement when I learned this 6570 was in fact based on the old 5770 (the lowest available card with GDDR5 support), not the 5650; and could contain a 1 full GB of the fastest memory technology on the market, GDDR5.
That would mean virtually no bottlenecks in my system as a whole; I don't have an SSD but truth is, I don't like them anyway. They don't last very long with 'wear leveling', cost too much and only impact synthetic benchmarks.
My new DV7 can't get here fast enough.

The new iMacs, Sandy Bridge and WiDi 2.0 (Wireless HD Display)

I understand that the new Sandy Bridge processors have built-in wireless display (WiDi - HD streaming to an external monitor) and since the new iMacs have these processors; do they have the ability to wirelessly stream HD content via WiDi 2.0?
If not, is this a hardware issue or an OS X issue that may be addressed by a future OS release, such as Lion?

So, yes, I welcome all kinds of waves, even micro ones... Seriously, this is completely affecting my next decision purchase. I want full browser experience on my HDTV without placing an iMac in my living room. If this feature cannot / will not be available on this iMac I will need to purchase a Mac Mini.
Maybe I should re-title my post, but I can't be the only user that wants this feature and if Fusion / Parallels will allow it or a future OS X update will, I would like to know. Neither sales or AppleCare knows the answer?
Strange.

New Intel Sandy Bridge benchmarks and overclocking results! 4.7Ghz!!!

http://www.gamingaccess.com/Hardware/news/26688/New_Intel_Sandy_Bridge_benchmarks_and_overclocking_results!_47Ghz!!!
Intel Sandy Bridge promises to deliver GPU quality graphics included in the CPU. However, these graphics are not going to compete directly with mid-range or high-range GPUs, but they will finally allow Intel (which quite honestly, sucks) to enter the graphic market. Finally, laptop users won't have crappy graphic and everyone should have at least decent graphic out of the box.
After 15 years, finally I can consider this question "Do you have a graphics card?" a thing of the past. CPU should include a decent GPU right out of the box, and gamers will continue to buy their fancy Nvidia or ATI mid-range and high-end products, or even combine them in CrossFireX, SLI, or even Mix+Match using Hydra.
The Chinese website http://www.inpai.com.cn has published a review that shows that there is little to no benefit in Intel Sandy Bridge if you compare the famous Intel Core i7 875k with the new Intel Core i7 2600k
However, they were able to reach 4.7Ghz, so I don't see why they are so disappointed with Intel. Anyway, here is what they had to say about the new Intel Core i7 2600k
Conclusion
As far as overclocking is concerned, the Core i7 2600K processor reached a not so impressive 4.7GHz which is a disappointment amongst overclockers since they were the only one who's gonna pay for this CPU

Do you guys know if MSI will release a motherboard with Lucid HYDRA for the Intel Core i7 2xxx chips?
That will be sweet!
I think I'm going to return my MSI Big Bang Fuzion, I will wait 3 weeks and then assemble a new computer

My i7 sandy bridge with optibay harddrive is running slow in diablo 3 in low setting. Before I can run ultra settings on Starcraft. It lags now even I run log in sc2!!! It gets slower and slower in game that is like slow motion!!! Computer gets hot.

Hi everyone, I been noticing my MacBook pro getting very slow in games like diablo 3 and Starcraft. This MacBook pro was bought a year ago. It is running i7 sandy bridge with a 128 Ssd. I did install optibay with a monetux xt hard drive in it.
It could run ultra setting on Starcraft no problem and is very smooth when I first got it. Lately I got diablo 3, and it gets very slow. I had to change all the graphics setting to low. It is not slow in the beginning, but it gets very slow after a while. It is like slow motion!!! Even when is low, it is still very laggy in game. I tried to repair the disk and clean up the laptop with onyx and still doing the same thing. I even try to reboot when is slow, but same thing after I reboot. I guess the MBP still hot.
Also I am running in lion!

If it's a 13" MBP you don't have the more powerful dedicated graphics and there is nothing you can do but be mad at Apple for deceiving you that the 13" MacBook Pro was capable of extreme graphics.
Only the 15" and 17" have the more powerful dedicated graphics in addition to the CPU graphics.
Mac video card performance

Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or other PC's: KISS or LOVE?

Tapeless workflows and Sandy Bridge or other PC's: KISS or LOVE?
Life used to be so simple when shooting video on a tape based camera. You shot your material, captured it for editing and stored your precious original footage on tape in a safe and dry place. Sure, it took time to capture, but the big advantage was that if you had a computer or drive failure, you would still have the original tape so everything could be recreated.
Now with tapeless workflows we have the significant advantage of much faster import of the original footage. Connect the flash card or disk drive to the computer over USB and copy the data to a HDD on the computer, ready for editing. The data on the flash card or disk drive can then be erased, so you can reuse it for more shots. But, like Johan Cruyff has said repeatedly, every advantage has its drawback. In this case it simply means that you no longer have the original material to fall back on, in case of computer or drive failures. That is a very unpleasant and insecure feeling.
The easy anwser to that problem is backups. Backup of the original media, backup of projects and backup of exports. This often means a bundle of externals for backup or NAS configurations. One thing is clear, it requires discipline to make regular backups and it costs time, as well as a number of disks. Four as a minimum: 1 for media, 1 for exports and at least 2 for projects. Note: This is excluding a backup drive for OS & programs.
There are different backup strategies in use. Some say backup daily and use one disk for monday, one for tuesday, and so on. Others say one disk for the first backup, the second for the second backup, then the first again for an incremental backup, etc. and once weekly a complete backup on a third disk. Whatever you choose, be aware that shelf live of a disk is far less than tape. There are horror stories everywhere about ball-bearings getting stuck after some time and without original tapes, you better be safe than sorry, so don't skimp on backups.
What is the relevancy of all this? I thought this was about Sandy Bridge and other PC's.
It is and let me try to explain.
Card based cameras are for the most part DSLR and AVCHD type cameras, and we all know how much muscle is required to edit that in a convenient way. Adobe suggests in the system requirements to use raid configurations for HD editing and practice has shown that raid arrays do give a significant performance boost and improve responsiveness, making for a nicer editing experience. The larger the project and the longer the time-line, the more a raid array will help maintain the responsiveness.
One thing you would not do is using a raid0 for projects, media and exports, even if you have backups. The simple reason is that the chance of disk failure multiplies by the number of disks in the raid0. Two disks double the chance of disk failure, three disks triple the chance, four disks quadruples the chance, etc.
Remember: Disaster always strikes when it is most inconvenient.
Imagine you have been working all day on a project, you decide to call it a day and to make your daily backup, but then the raid fails, before you made your backup. Gone is all of today's work. Then take into consideration the time and effort it takes to restore your backups to the state it was in yesterday. That does not make you happy.
Another thing to avoid is using a software or mobo based parity raid, for the simple reason that it is slooowww and puts a burden on the CPU, that you want to use for editing, not house keeping.
For temporary or easily recreated files, like the page-file, media cache, media cache database and preview files, it is very much advised to use a raid0. It makes everything a lot snappier and if disaster strikes, so what? These are easily recreated in a short time.
This was a general overview of what is required with tapeless workflows. Now let's get down to what this means in terms of system design.
Two approaches or train of thoughts
KISS: Keep it stupidly simple or LOVE: Laughing over video editing
The first one, the most economic one, is to use a system with 3 or 4 disks internally and 4 or more backup disks.
A typical disk setup can look like this:
This is a perfectly sensible approach if one does not have large or complex projects, long time-lines and is willing to take the risk of occasionally losing a whole days work, between backups. Many hobbyists and consumers fall in this category.
The KISS approach keeps it stupidly simple. The drawback is that there is no logical way to add more disks or storage. The discipline, diligence and effort required for regular backups make it far from a laughing matter. In fact it can quickly become a bore. Add to that the fact that the disk setup is simple but not very fast, so less suited for situations where lots of clips are involved, multi-cam is a regularly recurring situation or lots of video tracks are involved.
A number of video editors want more from their system than the occasional platonic KISS, they want to really LOVE their system, which lead to the other train of thought.
This is more costly than the KISS approach, but you all know a fiancée or wife is more costly and dear than the occasional kiss on the cheek by an old friend.
Let's start with a typical disk setup. It may look like this:
Two striking differences in comparison to the KISS approach:
1. Much easier disk organization and more disks and thus more space.
2. It requires a hardware raid controller, causing a higher investment cost. It is like an engagement ring. You don't get LOVE for free, one of the guiding principles of the oldest trade in the world.
These are easy statements to make, but what are the benefits or advantages, that you would fall in LOVE with such a system, and what are the drawbacks? Think back to Johan Cruyff's adage.
The only drawback is cost. The advantages are multiple, easier organization, more speed, more storage, snappier editing, no jerkiness, lesser requirements for regular backups and - this is the major benefit - hardly a chance of losing a day's work in case of a drive failure. Keep in mind that a parity raid keeps all your data intact in case of a drive failure, so lessens the need for up-to-date backups.
We all know, we get what we pay for: "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. OTOH, if you pay money to monkeys, you get rich monkeys". But in this case you get what you pay for, a much better editing experience with a much easier workflow.
Using a parity raid (be it raid 3/5/6/30/50/60) you get security, ease of mind that you are protected against losing precious media, that you need not worry about the last time you made a backup, that the editing you did today may be lost and you save valuable time editing and a lot of aggravation because of a much more responsive system.
How does this all relate to Sandy Bridge and other PC's?
First of all, the price difference between a Sandy Bridge / P67 platform and an i7-950+ / X58 platform is very small. Of course the new architecture is slightly more expensive than the older one, but the differences are small, almost not worth talking about.
So what are the differences? Look below:
The first thing to keep in mind is that the Sandy Bridge is the successor of the i7-8xx CPU and as such it is much more evolutionary than revolutionary. The CPU power has increased significantly over the i7-8xx due to new architecture and a smaller production process (32 nm), but in essence all the capabilities have remained unchanged. Same memory, same PCI-e lanes, same version, same L3 cache and no support for dedicated raid controllers.
It is great that the processor performs much better than the older i7-8xx CPU's, almost achieving the level of the i7-9xx range of processors, but is still limited:
The Sandy Bridge is unsuitable for anything more than a KISS system.
Why? Because it lacks the required PCI-e lanes to accomodate more than a 16 x PCI-e nVidia card with CUDA support to enable hardware MPE acceleration and the integrated graphics are not supported by CS5.
You may wonder if that is a bad thing. The plain and simple anser is NO. It is a great processor, it delivers great value for money, is a solid performer, but it has its limitations. Intel had a reason to position this CPU as a mid-level CPU, because that is what it is, a mid-level performer in comparison to what is to come.
The term mid-level performer may seem strange when compared to the old generation of i7-9xx CPU's, because they perform almost equally well, but keep in mind that there is a generation difference between them.
So what about the i7-9xx and X58 platform?
It still is going strong. About the same performance as a Sandy Bridge, with only the much more expensive hexa-cores clearly in the lead, both performance and price wise. The quad cores deliver about the same value for money. The main difference however is the platform that allows a dedicated raid controller to be installed, thus making it the platform of choice for those who want to go from a passing KISS to true LOVE.
And what lies ahead?
Sandy Bridge E on the Waimea platform (X68). Now that is revolutionary. More than double almost everything a processor can offer: double the cores, double the PCI-e lanes, triple the memory, more than double the L3 cache, increase the PCI-e support from 2.0 to 3.0, etc...
This is why Intel calls this a high-end CPU / platform.
So what now?
If you prefer a KISS approach, choose either a Sandy Bridge/P67 or an i7-950+/X58 platform.
If you wonder whether in the future you may need multi-cam more frequently, edit more complex projects and longer timelines or even progress to RED, look at KISS/LOVE solutions, meaning the i7-950+/X58.
If you can't have downtime, time pressure is high, delivery dates to clients are critical or you edit highly complex projects, lots of multi-cam situations or lengthy time-lines, choose a LOVE solution, an i7-950+/X58 platform.
If you have the time to wait till Q4/2011, Sandy Bridge E/Waimea looks to be worth the wait.
Hope this gives you some more insight into recent and future developments and helps you make wise investment decisions.

I'm upgrading from an AMD 3800+, cutting with Vegas 7 Pro. Usually shoot DSLR or HDV, sometimes P2, EX or RED. I have ridiculously cheap access to Macs, FCP/FCS, all kinds of software.
I've been agonizing over this for the last month, was originally hoping the UD7 mobo was the solution, read the read about the NF200/PCIe issue a few days ago, http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/non-linear-editing-pc/489424-i7-980x-now-wait-sandybridge-2.ht ml- and still decided to go for a 2600k.
My preference is to treat my video footage the same way as my digital imagery: I make (at least) duplicate back ups of everything before reformatting the cards, never delete the back ups, and only worry about the day-to-day stuff at night. Unless I'm rendering or involved in other long processes, in which case I'll back up the work in process the next day. If I am under a really really tight deadline I might back up as I go.
Yes, a RAID might make it easier, but I'm paranoid enough to prefer a slower, safer backup. You can always duplicate, and usually improve upon, a days work, but you can never get back original footage you lost. I have only ever had one hard drive die on me (a few enclosures crapped out, though)- it took a couple of (mostly unattended) hours to rectify. As a matter of act, I've had far more loss/damage from tapes than from hard drives.
I ordered the UD7, 2 F4s and 4 F3Rs, understanding I will probably want to upgrade to SBE when it comes out, or maybe next year. The 2600k/mobo/RAM will likely hold its value better than a 950/X58, likely because of the marketplace as much as merit.
The UD7 / RAID card issue is in it's early days, there may be a solution/mitigation. Probably not. But if I really really need a RAID card, then I probably really really need a 980, NAS, etc etc.
But Harm still rocks!

Intel finds errors in Sandy Bridge chipset

I just saw this announcement that Intel has found design flaws in the new Sandy Bridge chipset and it looks like there will be a recall. I just bought a Satellite A660 with the i7-2630qm which has the Intel 6 series chipset in question. What a disappointment! I guess that's the risk you take when you buy new technology. I hope Toshiba will fix this for those who already have this processor. I was thinking about returning this model anyway and now I really want to get rid of it.
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Thanks for the response, Jim, but I'd like to register my disappointment with Toshiba's decision. I *like* my new Satellite and I'd much prefer to get it fixed. I'd like to point out that a certain competitor (rhymes with 'bell') is offering a refund, replace, or repair three-option solution. Toshiba's one size fits all solution, which really only benefits Toshiba and not their customers, looks pretty poor by comparison. I hope Toshiba reconsiders.
Mike

Sandy bridge is ok now I hope? New build help.

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