Sandy Bridge video acceleration in CS6??

I know this is kind of a long shot in getting any sort of accurate answer, but has anyone run into any article, or Adobe Rep that suggests Premiere Pro will support the native video acceleration and rendering of the Intel CPUs like Sandy Bridge?  I am looking at a new build for editing and encoding H.264 content and am considering I7-2600k plus an nVidia card, but once software support for native CPU rendering happens, how much of an impact will that have on looking at purchasing specific graphic cards like the those offered from nVidia?

There is support for Sandybridge encoding in Grass Valley EDIUS and that can make a 1 hour Blu-ray file in 20 minutes.  Would be great to see that in Premiere Pro.  On the same processor Premiere does manage 1 hour in 1 hour ten minutes which is still pretty good but that is just using the CPU not the extra power of Intel Quicksync.  Unfortunately I have no information on whether they will or not.  I tried the free Intel Premiere plug-in and that worked but I had problems running a nVidia card and the Intel graphics at the same time.
For editing I think the Sandybridge beats most other processors anyway (apart from some of the faster Xeons) and is worth buying even if Adobe don't support quicksync.

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