SAP 4.7 Interface through RFC with non-sap system

We have SAP 4.7 instance and no XI and currently we are looking at following solutions using SAP connector, need following infrormation:
1. Which standard connector can be used ?
2. How Master Data to be replicated from SAP system to non-sap system( Outbound) ?
3. How Transactional data from non-sap sytem to SAP system ( Inbound)?
We need the above input considering that we don't have XI
regards

hi ,
Can you tell me which other non-sap system you are using
either it is dot net or some other
Regards
Deepak .

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