SAP BPC 5.1 vs BPC 10.0

Hi all,
I am trying to compare the BPC 5.1 with 10.0, but there are limited resources that I am found on the internet.
Can anyone point out the differences in the two versions?
I can only find comparison between versions 7.x and version 10.0. It will be of great help too if anyone can provide the comparison between 5.1 and 7.x
Thanks in advance.
Winson

JP,
Can you please explain your statement "In Administration point of you" I don't understand.
I beleive your statements may be a little misleading.
5.1 and 7.0 are first of all, completly different SAP products.
From an end user view, they are extremely alike. From an admin view they have many commonalities. Of course 7.0NW utilizes NetWeaver features and functions. So, for example, creating a Data Manager packages is vastly different.
The natural upgrade path for 5.1, (or ax, ax) would be 7.0M, (Microsoft version).
7.0MW runs on NetWeaver .
As a side note;
Regardless of the experience with other SAP products and NetWeaver ; If you don 't know BC you will have extreme difficulties implementing BC 7.0NW.
I see so many questions from people that have no ideal how to even spell BC trying to implement it. They do nothing but demonstrate thier own ignorance and create such hugh problems for everyone else. To be fair, I have even seen such bad BPC application designs and builds from people that have years of experience with the product, (and other PM products).

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