SAP GRC - SAP IDM integration

Hello,
may I ask you how SAP GRC Access Control can be integrated with Identity Management?
I would like a description of the model and to understand if CUP, ERM, RAR are all mandatory components to do the integration (it's not clear to me if only CUP should be use to integrate IDM).
Thank you to all
Daniela

Hi Daniela,
there are two basic options of integrating Netweaver Identity Management and SAP BusinessOBjects Access Control:
- CUP can call IdM to provision roles to non-SAP systems through IdM
- IdM can call CUP to hand over a request (or parts of it) for SoD and critical transaction checks
As a third option, I have seen customers using both tools in parallel, provisioning users and master data through IdM and assigning SAP authorizations through CUP/RAR.
The best kind of integration for your scenario is something that depends on your requirements and your desired processes. Technically you can do a lot, but it makes sense to invest the effort to find out what the best option is in your exact case.
Kind regards,
Frank.

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I am an SAP BASIS consultant with 2 years of experience working in a MNC company,
I want to change my career to SAP GRC/SAP Security, i have some basic knowledge on SAP Security,
COuld you please advice me, which one to choose,?
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I saw your post in GRC and was waiting of it to appear here
First up - 2 years is still junior. You may find batch jobs, transports, monitoring, etc all mundane but it is a foundation and learning ground work and foundations to being a good Basis Administration. And one things for sure, an awesome basic (I name my best-techy-friend) makes a huge difference on project timelines and deliverables for the rest of us.
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Switching to GRC/Security would be pointless unless you have a desire to learn GRC or Security. These are my background and they are undervalued until things go wrong (insurance policy in a way).
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Sap grc note require

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Can someone tell me how to view java table (on GRC server) to see all tcode and object are there. None our full sod roles not showing any conflictions. we have su24 action and permision level file uploaded but still no confliction.
can please anyone know the sap note number where they define the procedure how to view java table on grc server.
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Hi Junaid,
If you're looking for a list of tables and definitions for generating custom reports, check note 1369045.
But i guess you just look for tables to see if are filled, check some threads like this:
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Hi Gurus,
I was looking into connecting SAP IDM 7.0 with SAP GRC AC 10.1 and I cannot find a suitable connector for this.
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Juan

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Hi Matt,
Thank you very much.
Only change we have is before approval it should go to GRC AC check all the compliance and only after that it is approved and it should come back to SAP IDM .
I am actually looking for a tutorial which actually shows how you assign a business role and the whole procedure of SAP IDM automatically provisioning to target systems which you have just explained. I suppose there is no such exact tutorial and I want to know how we can configure this on SAP IDM . Any specific clues?
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Has anyone of you implemented integration between SAP GRC AC 5.3 and BW and develop custom reports?
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Imanol,
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