SAP GUI - SAP Businee Client - Portal Comparison

Hi ,
We would like to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of NW Business client over portal and normal SAP GUI in all the aspects such as development,performance .
what is the general/rule of thumb difference between development for SAP BC and Portal ?
How easy can developments be transferred from Portal to SAP GUI and vice versa ?
Are there any language specific implications for these objects ?
Are there any differences for development objects that are developed for SAP GUI and SAP BC ?
Are there any security related implications when using code that is created for SAP GUI on SAP BC and vice versa ?
Are there any additional security flags that need to be checked when switching from one to the other ?
While I cannot have more than 1 active SAP BC session (using the local installed version) can I run more than 1 with the web based SAP BC?
Thanks
Kumar.

Suggest you to close the thread here and re-open a new thread under SAP GUI or Portal forums for quick updates.
Regards,
Nick Loy

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Hi ,
We would like to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of NW Business client over portal and normal SAP GUI in all the aspects such as development,performance .
what is the general/rule of thumb difference between development for SAP BC and Portal ?
How easy can developments be transferred from Portal to SAP GUI and vice versa ?
Are there any language specific implications for these objects ?
Are there any differences for development objects that are developed for SAP GUI and SAP BC ?
Are there any security related implications when using code that is created for SAP GUI on SAP BC and vice versa ?
Are there any additional security flags that need to be checked when switching from one to the other ?
While I cannot have more than 1 active SAP BC session (using the local installed version) can I run more than 1 with the web based SAP BC?
Thanks
Kumar.

Check this link
http://www.sapfrontend.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/sap-netweaver-enterprise-portal-and-netweaver-business-client.pdf
http://help.sap.com/bp_ekit604/documentation/NWBC30_EN.PDF
Thanks,
Sravanthi

Using the HTML SAP GUI inside the Enterprise Portal?

Hello everyone
In our company we plan to set up the SAP Enterprise Portal (NetWeaver 7.0). The first application we want to provide inside the portal is the SAP GUI that connects to our SAP ERP 2005 system via single sign on. Therefor two different approaches exist:
1: Using the standard SAP GUI inside a portal iView. In this case every client pc needs the SAP GUI installed.
2: Using the HTML SAP GUI. In this case we have to set up the integrated ITS in our SAP ERP system.
Now I have some questions about the second approach. Is the functionality of the HTML GUI equal to the functionality of the standard GUI? If not, what are the restrictions? How high is the additional load on the network and SAP ERP system caused by the HTML GUI? Would you recommend this approach for a system with more than thousand SAP users?

Hi Marc,
At least if you consider using webgui, you should test the transactions properly as there are some issues for example with scandinavian characters and lines visible in lists of search helps.
Also you might want to consider the limitations of the screen resolutions and space which the portal framwork already takes from the gui. This of course is a topic for both HTML/SAP GUI's.
Kind regards,
Ville

SAP GUI for Java in portal

Hi,
I have installed SAP GUI for Java as written here: https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/oss_notes/sdn_oss_bc_fes/~form/handler%7b5f4150503d3030323030363832353030303030303031393732265f4556454e543d444953504c4159265f4e4e554d3d31303334393332%7d
I got a message that the instalation was succesfull. But after clicking the iview with the transaction the iview freezes and the transaction is not displyed. Any ideas where could be the problem?
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Ivo

hi Ivo Kostelecky,
for SAP GUI
you fill the properties ...
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here u give the url
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Regards,
Motaz

Edgar: The ITS is working and the service launches successfully through the GUI.
I overcame the issue by using SAP GUI for Windows instead. I guess there is a problem when using the HTML GUI from a public IP. Something to do with security or a conflict in the 'hosts' file.
Regards,
Motaz

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Thanks a lot,
Dan

I don't think so. I think there was a hack a while ago about making it a target by wrapping webgui inside another frame, but not as an event raiser.

SAP GUI (SAP LOGON 620).Problem connecting to R/3

Hi I Installed SAP 4.7 successfully.I could see SAP R3 Management console started properly.After Installing SAP GUI,I tried to connect from SAP Logon.I get an error ,A box opens
Which has title 'Syntax Errors'
and fields in the box are,
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in include                      -
in line                           -
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Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.I tried to google but could not find any reasonable answer.
I also tried to connect to R/3 from other box but the same result
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Durga

Mantosh,
I dont see any user defined on my logon pad.All I see Proerties,Groups,Server,New,Delete.
Manas,
Still no luck.I changed as adviced by bu still I get 'Sytax Errors' window.
Here is my SAPLogon pad after the changes you suggested.
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SessManNewKey=4
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Item1=
Item2=
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Item2=
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Item2=
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Item2=SAP 4.7E
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Item2=
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Item2=
[MSSrvName]
Item1=
Item2=
[MSSrvPort]
Item1=sapmsSR1
Item2=
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Webdynpro Vs SAP GUI

Hi,
Our requirement is to make SAP transactions available over internet.We are considering below two options.
1) SAP GUI using VPN
2) Portal with java webdynpro
If we are not really interested in initutive UI , whay do we need to consider weebDypro as SAP GUI is the proven technology.
WebDynpro is considerably slower than SAP GUI, What is the need for using webDynpro over SAP GUI.
We have requirements for RF enabled trasactions.How simple to develop weebdypro applications for RF enabled devices.
Please explain How webdynpro is better than SAP GUI via VPN considering the above scenario ?
Thanks,
Abdul Raheem S

Hi,
1)The SAP GUI for HTML is used in combination with the ITS technology. It runs inplace in the browser. The contents are generated by the Internet Transaction Server (ITS). The SAP GUI for HTML need not be installed separately on the client computers.
2)SAP GUI for JAVA: This GUI runs as Java applet inplace in the browser
You must provide users with the SAP GUI for Java on the Web server and edit the properties in service file Transaction_Configuration. To do so follow this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b7/17c43b6312210fe10000000a11402f/content.htm
3)SAP gui for windows: SAP GUI for Windows must be installed locally on the client. It is started in the browser
refer this link for more details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/fe/13c43bb7137503e10000000a11402f/content.htm
regards,
Ameya
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How do I check if I need SAP GUI 7.10 Patch-Level 7?

Hi,
I have installed SAP GUI 7.10 client.
After restarting the PC, I tried to install the Patch-Level 7 but I got the message:
This SAP Front End Patch cannot be applied. Either this patch is already installed or the components to be patched are not yet installed at all.
My version for the SAPGUI installer is 2008.0.0.187
From Windows, I looked at the version for the installed file saplogon.exe, it is 7100.1.0.1027.
Does anyone know if my SAPGUI would require Patch-Level 7?
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HY

Thanks for replying.
This is my SAP logon info, do it looks alright?
Release: 710 Final Release
File Name: saplogon.exe
File Version 7100.1.0.1027
Build: 0
Patch Level: 0
These are my installed component. Could it be that none of the below components need to be patched?
1. SAP GUI Suite
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4. Legacy Components
5. CRM Add-on
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Transaction Iview - SAP GUI for HTML

Hi,
In SAP transaction iviews - SAP GUI for HTML in portal there is a possibility to go to menu,other transactions from the transaction field.Is there any way to remove the Menu button and hide the transaction field from transaction iview.
Please suggest.
Thanks,
Rajani

Hi Rajani,
Transaction iview which will control the menu,cancel buttons in SAP GUI for HTML
the url provided by Damian contain the solution for your requirement.
If you are looking somthing different then pls explain the requirement
Just let us know which specifiy buttons you want to show in transcation IVEW.
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Anil

SAP GUI Logon does not have any anything to log on under systems

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Right now, after her laptop has been recently cleared of a virus attack, she could no longer log on to any servers/groups because there were nothing there!!!
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SECOND: Where can the saved files be located?? So that backup can be done when uninstalling SAP GUI 7.10
I really hope to get a reply soon!!! ( She needs to get her SAP up and running so she can continue on with her practicals since there is some kind of test related to SAP also... )
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really grateful if there is a reply...

Hello
Please also be aware that there is the option to re-install the latest SAP GUI with latest patch.
563161 - SAP GUI, SAP ITS & SAP IGS patches on Service Marketplace
If you would like to be notified when one of the patches is released please subscribe to the following thread in SAP Developer Network: Notification service for news about SAP GUI for Windows
1053737 - Expected release dates for SAP GUI for Windows & ITS patches
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Calling SAP GUI Client from a Java Webdynpro app.

Hello experts,
We would like to call the SAP GUI client from a java WebDynpro application running without portal or ITS. Can it be done by having a web link, with mime registration in internet explorer to kick off the SAP GUI ? (similar behavior with a SAP favorite link saved on the desktop).
many Thanks.

Hi,
Webdynpro possibilities:
1. You can try to use LinkToUrl.
with reference to file://<exefile> or your weblink with the mime type (possibly some java coding can be required; I can try to help).
2. other option is to use IFrame and you can use either href to your exe or weblink
Web Explorers:
1. IE: It should work. if you point to exe file popup window will be displayed asking for action (run, save, cance).
2. Firefox: the only way I know to make it work is to modify nsHelperAppDlg.js file (if you need Firefox I can tell you how to modify the file).
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SAP GUI issue with Portal on Windows Vista

Hello. I am using Windows Vista on my laptop. We use the portal to access our SAP systems. I have SAP GUI 7.1 installed on my machine. When I click my WIN GUI link from inside the portal I get a download file request. I download the file, however I have to click on the WIN GUI link a second time for the GUI to actually open I am using IE 7.0 as well.
Please advise if you know how to resolve this issue.
Thanks,
Stuart

try installing patch 5 for SAPGUI from ftp://ftp.sap.com/pub/sapgui/win/710/patches/

Client ID range for SAP GUI logon?

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Does anyone know what is the range of client IDs allowed for SAP GUI logon? I am assuming it to be 000-999. Is that correct?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Venkat

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SSO to mulitple SAP GUI based systems in the Portal

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I need to create links for multiple SAP Systems (based on the SAP GUI) in the portal and implement SSO for them. Can someone tell me where and how to place these links in the portal? Is there a standard approach for this, like a "Systems" iview or something?
Regards,
Shobhit

Hi,
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Editing system -> Editing SAP System properties http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/11e43d19734b5ae10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
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