SAP HANA on BW

Helllo, I have a query regarding HANA roadmap. SAP is going HANA with BW on HANA and then HANA live. I do not know about side cars like what are they? If my company buys HANA live and BW on HANA, what should be our reporting strategy? like how should we distribute our reporting? should we throw everything in BW or should we keep some stuff in ECC? Currently we have CRM, SRM, ECC and BW. I need some suggestions like what other people have done. Any presentation or material will be appreciated if provided.
Thanks.

Yes Venkat, Majority of the Info Cubes can be eliminated in BW on HANA. Info Cubes primarily store aggregated data, which HANA is capable to calculate on-the-fly using HANA views. So you'll save space(no need to store pre-calculated aggregates), time(no load time) and effort (no InfoCube maintenance). Make the most use of HANA views and Virtual Providers.
Side-Car means running a parallel system (a secondary second system with filtered set of data) on HANA DB for reporting purpose. Data needs to be fed in to the Side-Car HANA system and that can be done in two ways. Either as a batch job using SAP Data Services or as a near-realtime trigger based data replication using SLT.
Check out these links. These provide more details on Side-Car approach as well as other deployment scenarios...
Accelerating custom SAP ECC transactions with HANA - Part 1
Accelerating custom SAP ECC transactions with HANA - Part 2
Architecture and Technology in SAP HANA (slides 22 to 27)
How to Select the Appropriate SAP HANA Data Provisioning Tool
Hope this answers your question
Regards,
Siva

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Message was edited by: Tom Flanagan

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