SAP HCM Job Family

Dear all, i would like to ask if anyone has successfully use Job Family in their organisation.
Prior to this, SAP has no concept of JF and Job Functions.
Is JF used only for Succession Planning purpose ?
And also what is it that JF can perform that existing Competency Framework in SAP cannot achieve? We already have qualifications, requirements tieing to position/person etc and profile matchup working fine.
With JF, what are the 'benefits' and challenges when implmenting this ?
appreciate if anyone can share their experience or perceive how JF works for a company.
Thanks for reading !

Hi Peter,
The JF object is part of the Competency Framework. The benefit of using the FN-JF-C-S "structure" is the easy assignment and maintenaince of qualifications. Qualifications can be inherited down this structure. For example, you assign a Qualification to a JF and it is inherited by all Cs in that JF and by all Ss described by those Cs. If you assign a Qualification at the FN (Functional Area) level it will be inherited by all JFs, Cs and Ss etc within that FN.
JFs can also have a relationship with the CP that is called a "Successor Pool". This is similar to a Talent Group, but is specifically for Jobs and/or Positions within the Job Family. It is mainly used for classfying talent.
I hope that helps. If not just holler back.
Best regards,
Luke

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