SAP PI7.31 Java Single Stack - Default Delete Job Retention period
Hi
anybody know where the Default Delete Job Retention periods can be set ? I'm on a SAP PI7.31 Java Single Stack.
thanks - in milliseconds - very precise.
1) NWA-->Configuration-->Infrastructure -->Java System Properties
2) Go to Services tab, and type XPI and select – XPI Adapter: XI
3) Type “persist” in Properties filter
4) for example Set Retention period in Milli seconds and save
2592000000 = 30 Days
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No - the possibility of having a dual stack installation will be still there.
From an infrastucture point of view this recommendation combined with SAP NetWeaver architecture will result in an explosion of SID names which leads to an explosion of application server instances and DBMS instances and an explosion of installed servers. I know it is possible to combine SIDs into a single DBMS using MCOD and to have multiple application servers in a single physical server, but there are issues with mulitple application server instances and MCOD use which make normal maintenance operations difficult.
I agree - MCOD is not a good solution for this problem.
I think it would be much better for customers to install dual stack systems and simply adjust the SAP profile parameters to disable one stack or the other. This way, you could still have 1 stack per application server instance and you would not be have to be creative with SAP SID names!!! Creating a DBMS instance or installing an additional server is not a simple nor economical proposition.
There are 36 * 36 * 36 (minus a few reserved) names for SIDs- this should be enough - also for the biggest customers
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In fact it is better to separate - that´s at least our experience. The main no-go for such a configuration on our side was the dependency thing. Since they are there and you can´t do much about them we decided to have a 1:1 relationship for ABAP backend and Java "frontend". You will get more instances (and names and databases) but you can patch applications independently from each other. So an implementation of a BI patch won´t imply that you finally also patch your ERP production and other systems that connect to that portal.
There are virtualization techniques available to not need more boxes, you can consolidate them on one machine as if you were installing a dual stack so that is not really an issue. This depends, of course, on the platform and database you use (e. g. Oracle does not support production installations in VMWare). We use for our Java instances Solaris on Opteron (or Intel 64bit) and zones/containers and for the ABAP part we use Linux + Xen. Both virtualization methods come with the OS (so no additional $$$) and both are supported by SAP.
The propagated advantage of having a dual stack installation (shared memory access etc.) is so small that it doesn´t outban the additional complexity - which is definitely there.
I hope those arguments will help to understand SAPs (and the consultants) position - get back if you want more
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