SAP SD profitable analysis

Dear Gurus,
In VF02 while release billing document time, i click "accounting overview" tap page some fields like
                "Accounting document
                Profit center doc.
                Controlling Document
                Profitab. Analysis     "
Coming. Now my problem is.
If i gone trough "profitable Analysis" tap page. "No analysis."
Their showing only codes, not price.
where profitable analysis configuration.
Thanks in advance
Satya

Hi Ramu,
Please find the below link to understand Profitability Analysis
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/Profitability+Analysis
Thanks
Dasaradha

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Account Based Profitability Analysis

Hi,
I am mapping characteristic fields of account based profitability analysis. I have been given fields such as KMLAND to map into BI fields.My question is how do i map the key figures. What fields in account based profitability analysis are key figures, are they value fields? Do i need a list field names of value fields to map it into BI.Some one mentioned something about cost elements.
Thanks
TJ

Hello Tee Jay,
Cost Element is a key field in ECC. That means its char. in BW. What are the infoobjects that you have in your DSO or cube n BI.
Do you have 0COSTELMNT or 0GL_ACCOUNT? If so, then you map Cost element field from SAP to one of the above char. in BW.
By Revenue, do you mean a value field in R/3? If so, it will have to be mapped to key figure in BI.
Hope that helps.

Profitability Analysis for Project and Project Team

Hello Experts,
Need your ideas and expertise to the below business case, could be simple or complicated, please provide some insight.
the business case is like this. 2 specific project teams are available. there can be around 10 projects executed in a year. So in our PS we can have project team allocated to a project. workforce planning is done for the project for effective utilization, it is like 2 projects with 2 teams assigned. till now it is fine. the business calls for that 1 st team is assigned to another project only after closure of the assigned project.
Let us assume P1, P2,...P10 are the projects in a year. Assume T1, T2 are the teams available. Initially T1 is assigned to P1, T2 is assigned to P2.
Business confirms that T1 will be assigned to P3 only after completion of P1. This requirement is also straight. Assume that team T1 has executed 6 projects and team T2 has executed 4 projects.
The requirement is profitability analysis at project level i.e at P1, P2, ...P10 which is also pretty straight. Business requirement is also to have profitability analysis against each team i.e for T1 and T2. it is like each team has a project lead and team assigned under him. based on the expenses and revenue booked against the team, there will be performance evaluation of the team.( assume that P1, P3, P5, P6, P8,P9 are the projects executed by team T1, we need to have revenue and expenses of the said projects to be mapped to team T1 as well), so we have profitability analysis at team level.
Experts, require your advice on how to map the requirement. Is there any possibility to map projects to team rather assigning team to a project. please advice. provide some insight on how do we map the scenario.
Regards,
Murthy

Hello Murthy,
In SAP you carry out Month end closing activities. In order to carry out this activity, you post all period based data on the project. Subsequently data relevant for Profitability analysis can be determined for the given period and then this data can be settled to COPA.
This data can be evaluated in the project information system or in Profitability analysis.
You can check report KE30 for Profitability Analysis.
Refer SAP help for more details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/7a/4c3aad4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
Regards
Tushar

Characteristic and value field in profitability analysis document

hi,
1 in VF03, when i click the accounting button, i got the profitability analysis document.
when i click on it, it shows display line items with tabs like characteristic and value fields.
may i know where i can see the characteristic and value fields defined where each time when i click on profitability analysis document, i get the list of characteristic and value field.
2 also if open FB03, can see the profit segment. the characteristic and value defined in where?
any tcode or spro that can show how the characteristic and value defined in profit segment.
thanks

Hi
Pleaase go through the below mentioned links. It will give you a better insight on the topic you want information about.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7a/4c38334a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7a/4c388e4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7a/4c389b4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
Karthik

Characteristic Derivation in Profitability Analysis

Dear Experts,
I am finding it bit difficult to understand the concept fully when it comes to the Characteristic Derivation in Profitability Analysis.
I had gone through the various SAP explanations of MOVE, LOOK UP, ENHANCEMENT, DERIVATION RULEu2026. And now I am having rough understanding of all of it. But I am finding it difficult to understand on how these various steps or rule impact the COPA output. In other words if someone can explain the usage of all the MOVE, LOOK UP, ENHANCEMENT, DERIVATION RULE steps with an example?
Thanks in advance
Paul

Hello Paul,
Its purely clients decision/requirements which determine whether derivation is required or not. But in all COPA implemenation you need at least couple of derivations.
I will explain a simple scenario for Table Look up. Suppose you are settling production orders linked to a sales order ( Make to order scenario).
When the production order settles variances to COPA, system will not transfer Customer ( sold to party) characteristics.
But you can tweak the system through a small derivation rule to bring the customer from sales order and pass it to COPA when production order is settled.
For table look up first you have to identify the table, here our reference is sales order (VBAP-VBELN) and the required field is sold to party (VBAP-KUNNR), both are in VBAK
In the source field for table look up
VBAP- VBELN = CO-PA- KAUFN ( means if sales order number from VBAP table is same as the COPA sales order number)
VBAK-KUNNR= CO-PA-KDNR ( then pull the customer number associated with that sales order and populate the COPA customer field)
Please carefully go through SAP help for derivation, it is clearly explained with simple examples
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/7a/4c37ef4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
thanks
SAP FREAK

Customizing Monitor in Profitability Analysis

Hello SAP-team!
What functions are provided by the Customizing Monitor in Profitability Analysis?
ps: thanks to SAP-community!
Eugene

Hi,
Customizing monitor in Profitability analysis as follows..
General topics:
35288 Technical Documentation CO-PA
69384 Account-based Profitability Analysis
199467 New act assignment table as of Release 4.5
2. Master data:
a) Characteristics and value fields:
13377 Naming conflicts in characteristics and value fields
21207 Deleting a charctrstc/value field from an op.concern
40336 Maintaining foreign keys for characteristics
76493 Changing texts of characteristics or value fields
b) Characteristics derivation and submission of characteristics values
32719 Customer hierarchy in CO-PA
33968 SD/CO-PA: Characteristics from sales document tables
36557 SD/CO-PA: Transfer partner functions to CO-PA
62690 Product hierarchy in CO-PA
93652 Info: Variant configuration in CO-PA
134889 Info on derv. of char:Why not all flds avail.?
148609 Char.deriv.:deriv. rule vals miss.aft.upgrade&trnsp.
172740 Techn.docum.charct. derivtn as of Release 4.0
c) Valuation
40408 Valuation for record types 'B' and 'C'
62536 Valuation using conditions in Profitability Analysis
67240 Info: Valuation with material cost estimate
111232 INFO: Valuation for materials valuated separately
144337 INFO rounding differences: Valuation with costing
142628 Behaviour of user exit in periodic valuation
3. Actual data transfer:
20254 Values from SD are not transferred to CO-PA
37114 Incorrect setup/reversal of provisions
33178 +/- sign logic in CO-PA (SD/FI interface)
52849 Transfer of conditions with +/- signs
39635 Profitability segment by substitution exits
64768 FI/CO-PA: Problems with exchange rate differences
87704 Cost-of-goods-sold Reconciliation: FI to Co-PA
83702 Acct assignmt logic sales order proc. - REM
111309 Transfer of quantities into CO-PA
185826 Enhancement COPA0005
a) Correction of data inconsistencies
69370 Clearing data inconsistencies in CO-PA
70718 Correctn of data inconsistency for order recpt
140457 Correcting data inconsstncs in incoming orders
126937 Correction of billing data inconsistency
93051 Restructure of the segment level from line items
4. Planning:
67191 Useful tips on the CO Planning Processor
72110 KE11: Long runtimes/timeout
77476 Information: Top-down planning
124598 CO-PA Planning: FAQs
5. Information system:
21773 Performance in reporting (summarization data)
83204 Usage strategy for summarization levels
136216 Fast rollup for summ. levels for costing-based CO-PA
6. Tools:
134430 Euro conversion and CO-PA
19015 Termination during external data transfer
19410 Characteristic validation during external data transfer
44658 Error with batch input for KE21
40994 Transport Profitability Analysis (CO-PA) to 3.0
52636 CO-PA Customizing transport
128862 Transport Customizing CO-PA in 4.0A/B
131664 Transport of operating concern structures 4.0
144015 Client copy and CO-PA/EC-EIS
65999 Information: Supported ALE scenarios in CO-PA
94458 CO-PA Realignments: documentation
113050 Segment table repair after realignments
127334 Missing archiving of profitability segments
199959 Change assignmt for operating concern
67839 Generating parts of an operating concern environment
69829 Delete operating concern in Release 3.0
106314 Delete operating concern in Release 3.1
562043 - Transfer actual costs to Profitability Analysis
544241 - INFO:Customizing Monitor new fnc 'Report Overview'.
429517 - INFO: Currency translation Billing document -> CO-PA
428563 - Material cost estimate valuatn: Translaton for posting date
400237 - CO-PA INFORMATION: Line item in company code currency
199959 - Information: change assignmt for operating concern
199467 - Info: New act assignment table as of Release 4.5
185826 - Information: Enhancement COPA0005
172740 - Info.:Techn.docum.charct.derivtn as of Release 4.0
148609 - Char.deriv.:deriv.rule vals miss.aft.upgrade&trnsp.
144337 - INFO rounding differences: valuation with costing
144015 - CC-INFO: client copy and CO-PA/EC-EIS
142628 - Behaviour of user exit in periodic valuation
140457 - Info:Correcting data inconsstncs in incoming orders
136216 - Fast rollup for summ.levels for costing-based CO-PA
134889 - CO-PA Info on derv.of char:Why not all flds avail.?
134430 - Information: Euro conversion and CO-PA
131664 - INFO: Transport of operating concern structures 4.0
128862 - INFO: Transport Customizing CO-PA in 4.0A/B
127334 - Missing archiving of profitability segments
126937 - INFO: Correction of billing data inconsistency
124598 - Info: CO-PA planning: frequently asked questions
113050 - Segment table repair after realignments
111309 - INFO: Transfer of quantities into CO-PA
111232 - INFO: Valuation for materials valuated separately
106314 - Delete operating concern in Release 3.1
94458 - CO-PA Realignments: documentation
93652 - Info: Variant configuration in CO-PA
93051 - Restructuring the segment level from line items
83702 - INFO: Acct assignmt logic sales order proc. - REM
83204 - Usage strategy for summarization levels
77476 - Information: top-down planning
76493 - Changing texts of characteristics or value fields
75334 - INFO:Downloading CO-PA correctn package fm SAPSERV
72110 - KE11: Long processing times / timeout
70718 - INFO:Correctn of data inconsistency for order recpt
69829 - Delete operating concern in Release 3.0
69384 - Information: Account-based Profitability Analysis
69370 - INFO: Clearing data inconsistencies in CO-PA
67839 - Generating parts of an operating concern environment
67240 - Info: valuation with material cost estimate
67191 - Info: Useful tips on the CO Planning Processor
65999 - Information: Supported ALE scenarios in CO-PA
64768 - FI/CO-PA: Problems with exchange rate differences
62690 - Info: product hierarchy in CO-PA
62536 - Info: Conditions in Profitability Analysis
52849 - INFO: Transfer of conditions with +/- signs
52636 - INFO: CO-PA Customizing transport
44658 - Error with batch input for KE21
40994 - INFO:Transprt Profitability Analysis (CO-PA) to 3.0
40408 - Info: Valuation for record types "B" and "C"
40336 - Info: maintaining foreign keys for characteristics
39635 - Info: finding the profitability segment using a substitution
37114 - Incorrect setup/reversal of provisions
36557 - Info SD/CO-PA:transfer partner functions to CO-PA
35288 - Profitability Analysis: Technical Documentation
33968 - SD/CO-PA: Characteristics from sales doc tables
33178 - INFO: +/- sign logic in CO-PA (SD/FI interface)
32719 - INFO: Customer hierarchy in CO-PA
21773 - Performance in Reporting (Summarization data)
21207 - Deleting a charctrstc/value field from an op.concern
20254 - INFO: Values from SD not transferred to CO-PA
19410 - INFO: Char.validity check f.external data transfer
19015 - Termination during external data transfer
13377 - INFO: Naming conflicts in charactrst. & value flds.
Thanks
Prasada

Specific scenario in PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS

Can someone tell me his/her experience about a specific scenario in Profitability Analysis where he/she faced a problem and did something special in configuration/development in order to move from legacy to SAP system.
I would appreciate the help and award suitable points.
Thanks
Chandan

Hi,
Are you looking at KE30 - drilldown reports?
Rgds.

Costs of the product calculation lack in the profitability analysis

Hello there,
A group of students and I are currently working on a SAP project which is about to implement a full cost accounting in the SAP system (ERP). At first we used a case study reading (Friedl,Hilz,Pedell), some important components for calculating the products like u201Ccosting sheetu201D, u201Ccost component structureu201D and u201Ccosting variantu201D do exist already.
For our project we had to insert an additional primary cost center. For that reason we also added new components (the above given ones). After that the costs for our products could be calculated in the right way. We also booked supplies and stated the quantity of sales. Our problem is that the Profitability Analysis (CO-PA) does not show any costs of our cost centers (material input, manufacturing costs, overhead costs) only the earnings. We did not add any u201Cattributesu201D, u201Cderivation rulesu201D or u201Cvalue fieldsu201D but fulfilled all requirements in the Customizing menu (u201CAssign costing key to productu201D, u201CAssign costing key to productu201D, u201CAssign value fields for cost component structureu201D).
The first time when we used the case study reading and therefore another company code everything worked fine. We think that the problem might be that the costing key is not attached to the products.
Thank you for any help and suggestions,
Kind regards!

In the same area as where you assign the costing key to the product, there is also an entry where you need to define the costing key. You don'tr mention that you have done that.
In the user menu for Profitability Analysis, there are also a lot of tcodes that will help you investigate the flows of values and derivation of characteristics. They are very helpful in most cases.

REO Profit. analysis//5 Profitability Analysis

Hi Expert,
I am facing an issue on controlling document, when i do posting in WTY (warraty module) in DBM project (SAP R/3).
My FI doc is posted to correct profit center but when i check on controlling document, it show "REO Profit. analysis//5 Profitability Analysis". Other controlling document will show correct internal order number.
Is this issue related to Profitability Analysis? As i did not activate profitability analysis in DBM ERP.
Please advice is there any configuration i missed out?
Thanks.
regards,
chuan

Hi
This issue arises when category 11 or 12 cost elements are posted w/o a true CO object i.e. you enter only the PC as the account assignment obj for revenues
Make message KI 166 as E in OBA5.. You wont be allowed to post w/o entering a true CO object (Like IO, PSG etc)
As of now, you can modify the CO object using KB61 for the posted docs
br, Ajay M

Distributed Profitability Analysis from HCM system

We have a requirement to provide a distributed profitability analysis (PA) solution (account based) from our SAP HCM system (ECC6) to our backend SAP Finance system (ECC6).
Does anybody know whether this can be done?
I have found general information relating to distributed PA scenarios but none explicitly mention HCM as the source system.
For the scenarios I have found, it mentions using message type CODCMT as part of an ALE solution. Will this apply to HCM or have we got to look at alternatives such as (for example) bespoking the std IDoc solution for the posting of payroll results to include the PA data.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Points will be allocated.
Regards
Ian

Hi
Posting a COPA document while delivery of goods (VL02N) is not a standard way of COPA value flows.
You can only transfer your billing values only at the time of VF02 and not at VL02N and even it is not logical
Because when you do post goods issue, at that point of time you are not accounting for any revenue. So it is not proper to flow the values into COPA and generate a document at goods issue
One more thing is that accounting entries are automatically generated during VL02N and you cant directly post on COPA using Direct Acct Assgn from FI/MM. It only works when you directly do an FI posting
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Regards
Ram

TESTING AB PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS

Hi all,
We have configured account based profitability analysis. I was told that there was some data in table COEP available for testing. How do i go about testing this data in BI?
Could some one give me step by step directions?
We are working on BI 7.0 thus have DTP and Transformatins.
Thanks

refer this doc:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/7a5ee147-0501-0010-0a9d-f7abcba36b14
you can also use the same solution once live for reconciliation...
alternatively....
if there are any account based PA report already developed in source system then use them to tie up records with BW...
you can carry out data load and check your data load records against those in table (if they are not many)..
Edited by: sam hennry on Feb 14, 2008 11:33 AM

Regarding the activate the profitability analysis

Hi,
This is sumanalluri sap fi/co consultant.I am hitting an error while doing the profitcenter accounting.when i want to to do the transfers of material stock balenses ,the system is asking accounting based pca is not active in the year 2007 in controlling area.But in the controlling area it is not allowing me to keep profitability analysis in active status.By default it is kept as inactive .How can i rectify this error.Please do the needfull.
Regards,
suma

Hi Suma
go to KEA0 or follow the below path
IMG>CONTROLLING>PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS >FLOW OF ACTUAL VALUES>ACTIVATE PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS
once you complete operating concern
then go to OKKP and activate Operating concern there
regards
prasad

50 Fixed CO-PA Profitability Analysis Elements

We are in the blueprint stage of a new SAP implementation using the Life Sciences express solution. Our consultants advised us that there are 50 SAP fixed characteristics in CO-PA for Profitablity Analysis and we have the ability to add up to 50 non-fixed characteristics. The list of the 50 fixed characteristics that our consulting team provided to us appeared very strange. Many of them appear to related to the airline industry. For example:
KMATYP - Aircraft type
KMDEST - Desitnation
KMFLTN - Flight number
KMFLTY - Flight type
KMIATA - IATA season
KMOPDY - Day of operation
KMORIG - Departure location
KMLEGS - Route segment
After questioning the provided list, we have been assured that we have been provided is the correct list of 50 fixed characteristics for all SAP implementations. We are looking for validation that these value are indeed part of the correct list. If not, we would greatly appreciate receiving the correct full list.
Thank you,
Carrie

Hi Carrie,
I vaguely remember that CO-PA (Profitability Analysis) module was initially developed/used for Airline industry to analyze the contribution margins. I'm not 100% sure on this, think i read it somewhere. SAP has provided these characteristics and derivation rules (logic to derive the characteristic for a transaction) by default. In my experience, i have always seen clients using at least 10-20 custom fields in CO-PA, since these are client specific we need to create additional derivation rules (either table lookup/Move/Derivation rules/Enhancements). Fields from Material master and customer master tables are commonly used for analysis in CO-PA.
Best Regards,
Venkata Ganesh Perumalla

How to Revise the Variable of Profitability Analysis (KE31)

Hello SAP Gurus,
How do I revised the "variable" of the Profitability Analysis? I just need to add a variable...
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
Get in TCODE KE35 i.e. form definition... now select u r row or column where u want to add the variable... when u get in for characteristics u selected, second icon enables u to create new variable.. U just tick this and system will enable u define new one or to select existing variable.
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Sudhakar Reddy

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please tell me the setting of profitability analysis.

Hello sourabh,
You may refer to some SAP best practice. the link is:
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/500/BBlibrary_start.htm
Please check for relevant documentation.
Best regards, Gordon

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