SAP Workflow as Enterprise BPM tool?

Howdy,
     This doesn't seem to fit in BPM Methodology Forum.... nor is it a purely technical question of SAP Workflow.
Another part of our company is starting vendor evaluation process for possible purchase of BPM tool (IBM Lombardi, Appian, Tibco, etc) after ruling out open source options.   Should I suggest they look at SAP Workflow & UWL as "existing/free" option we own?   Will it cleanly manage events from non-SAP applications?
Background:
1) We've never adopted SAP Workflow (expertise limited); maybe have three to five in Production.
2) Enterprise BPM requirements are to integrated various applications/events from various platforms worldwide (75% of events would not be SAP centric).
3) We've discontinued our XI server... all we had from SAP was SUS Interface (in 6 yrs). We have Tibco EMS & BW for middleware connectivity.   Will SAP Workflow/UWL function without SAP XI - will it integrate with Tibco?
4) Large population without SAPGUI., use UWL now from some actions... would need to use UWL for Enterprise access - or should consider BWSP?
Anything else that would help to answer the general question of using SAP Workflow for non-SAP events/data?
Thanks,

I was hoping for a better answer.... a work-around to use our Tibco infrastructure (repl XI) and "hooks" into SAP. Darn....
I wasn't finding very many articles, etc. that were encouraging SAP Workflow as an Enterprise BPM.
But thanks for your experience and reply....

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