SaskTel's Blackberry Z10 users told to wait for upgrade

In speaking with Sasktel technical support, and in the news article posted yesterday (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2013/03/14/sk-blackberry-customers.html), Sasktel users have to wait for the upgrade until Blackberry does thier NEXT upgrade. SkTEL support says "probably end of April"
What does: SaskTel says allowing customers to upgrade now would interfere with the Blackberries' roaming capabilities. even mean?
Telus is in Saskatchewan (with same roaming map -- they upgraded and their users have no trouble.)
Rogers is in Saskatchewan (albeit NOT with the same roaming map, but their users got the upgrade)
This is beyond annoying.
I wanted the better battery life.
i wanted the fixes.
I wanted WhatsApp.
sigh.
Anyone have any further insight into what their statement might mean?

Nope. It will stay the upgraded OS.
Be warned, however, that some users have experienced connection issues when installing other provider's released OS upgrades. Included in the OS files are what are know as "radio" files, which govern the signal, connection, voice and data transfers. You could experience issues. You might now.
But, if it were me, with the issues you're having -- I'd upgrade, using a Telus SIM card in the device. You can even use an old one or deactivated SIM card, I've been told by close friends.
Once the upgrade is performed, remove the Telus SIM, replace the SaskTel SIM in, (also removing and resinserting the battery at the same time).
Make sure you are connected to a WiFi source AND a charging cable when you do all this. It can take 45-60 mins.
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model = new TreeSet();
public int getSize() {
return model.size();
public Object getElementAt(int index) {
return model.toArray()[index];
public void add(Object element) {
if (model.add(element)) {
fireContentsChanged(this, 0, getSize());
public void addAll(Object elements[]) {
Collection c = Arrays.asList(elements);
model.addAll(c);
fireContentsChanged(this, 0, getSize());
public void clear() {
model.clear();
fireContentsChanged(this, 0, getSize());
public boolean contains(Object element) {
return model.contains(element);
public Object firstElement() {
return model.first();
public Iterator iterator() {
return model.iterator();
public Object lastElement() {
return model.last();
public boolean removeElement(Object element) {
boolean removed = model.remove(element);
if (removed) {
fireContentsChanged(this, 0, getSize());
return removed;
}{code}
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 11:34 AM
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 11:37 AM
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 11:40 AM
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 11:45 AM
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 11:47 AM

redm14A wrote:
Hmm, I was trying to avoid writing an applet. Seems my only other option then is to write a JSP that returns a javascript menu populated by options from a database call. Then I'd have the user click submit to send the options to another JSP that simply sets the request attribute and forwards to the controller. Will this be a sound alternative?
Edited by: redm14A on Oct 10, 2007 12:29 PMSounds good to me.

Finally the waiting is over for Blackberry z10 on ATT

Well kinda over, Only wait a few more days...
Your BlackBerry Z10 will be shipped on March 20, 2013.
You can pre-order now - only black
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/blackberry/z10-black.html#fbid=SfK2FfJr5nT
2 year contract 199.99 + free shipping
No contract will be 549.99

Had the same problem.
Fixed it using SSL! Now it works fine again.

WAITING FOR 1 MONTH FOR REPAIR Z10 MOBILE

Z10
Hi Blackberry Users, I just get Z10 one week ago, But The phone got switch off n can't restart, then I bring to Service center they told me got system problem and we need to send the Factory. And they told me collection after One Month. Is it I need to wait for one month that my phone to collect. Is there any replacement for my Warrenty mobile. I think this is not correct responce for BLACKBERRY Customers.
Sudha

Hi and Welcome to the Community!
As a user-to-user community, no one here can answer your question with any level of authority whatsoever. BlackBerry provides zero front line support to end users, including warranty...all support starts with the carriers, authorized resellers, and authorized service centers, all who can escalate cases into BlackBerry at no charge to the end user. Further, your warranty terms are a contractual matter between you and your original place of purchase...whatever those state is what governs.
In any event, your escalation path is not here, in these forums. Rather, it is through your service center or original place of purchase. You have no free path by which to bypass them.
There is something called incident support, but it costs to just ask the initial question, since you are bypassing the contract you signed upon purchase. If you wish to investigate that, you can review it here:
http://us.blackberry.com/support/programs/technical/incident.html
There also might be some good reading here:
http://us.blackberry.com/legal/handheld-limited-warranty.html
Good luck!
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Ever since update, my torch will not send bbm's to any Z10 users

I updated the latest version on my bb and now it takes forever to send a bbm. Also, I can receive the messages from Z10 users, but cannot send anything to them. No bbm messages will go through.

I fixed it by doing this response to another post......and it worked!
Re: bbm won't launch after update
Hi ,
If you’re having problem in locating then try to reinstall BBM again .
To do that first On your Homescreen Go to Options > Device Application Management > Locate and delete BlackBerry Messenger from there.
KB10040 : How to view or remove installed application on a blackberry smartphone
After deleting perform a Battery Pull Restart by removing the Battery while your device is Powered On ,wait a min. then re-insert it back .
After reboot use your BlackBerry browser and browse to www.blackberry.com/bbmdownload and download the most recent available for your device .
Try it and let us know.

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