Sata 150 and sata 300 compatibility

If I have a laptop with a sata 150 capability, can I use a sata 300 drive in it?
I assume that it would run at sata 150 performance, but is it compatible?
Would I be able to benefit from the larger cache size? Would it tend to run cooler? Any other possible benefits or drawbacks?
The selection of sata 300 laptop drives is greater than the sata 150 now, and many of them offer a larger cache size (32mb instead of 16mb) as well as larger drive capacities.
Thanks for any advice.

Yes, SATA II (3.0 Gbps) drives are all backward compatible with SATA I (1.5 Gbps) connections. There's no advantage to using a SATA I drive if your connection is limited to SATA I, a SATA II drive will perform fine, and as you stated they are easier to find.

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The motherboard uses the onboard SATA connectors:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2842&ProductName=GA-EP45-DS3R
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I could install 2.1.2 with some ancient IDE disks.
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SATA Drivers and SATA AHCI Drivers for Zen 4.01 ir7 Boot CD

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Our only issue is that newer computers are coming out with SATA drives and some of the newer computers are coming out with SATA drives that support AHCI.
Are there SATA drivers and SATA drivers that support AHCI that we can put into our Zen 4.01 ir7 (Linux Kernel 2.4.31) and if so is there a link you can send me too and basically how do you put these drivers into the Zen 4.01 ir7 bootcd?
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Sata 150 or Sata 300

My hard drive failed yesterday and I bought a new sata drive. Needless to say the drive is a Sata 300 drive that has a jumper to put the drive to a sata 150. My questions are.
1. does the iMac's motherboard automaticly switch the drive from 150 to 300 without a jumper ever being needed?
2. Which sata interface does the iMac use?
Needless to say by the time some one answers this question I will have it figured out. I noticed this topic hasn't been discussed and could be helpful. I will update when I get the process complete and figured out.

After installing leapord everything has gone smooth. I have removed the jumper on the back of the drive that tells the system wether or not it is a Sata 150 or 300 drive.
Here is the info from disk utility
Name : ST3500320AS Media
Type : Disk
Partition Map Scheme : GUID Partition Table
Disk Identifier : disk0
Media Name : ST3500320AS Media
Media Type : Generic
Connection Bus : Serial ATA 2
Device Tree : /PCI0@0/SATA@1F,2/PRT2@2/PMP@0/@0:0
Writable : Yes
Ejectable : No
Mac OS 9 Drivers Installed : No
Location : Internal
Total Capacity : 465.8 GB (500,107,862,016 Bytes)
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 0
from what I gather the mid 2006 iMac's do Sata 300 (Sata 2) so if you buy a new drive make sure to check for jumpers on the back of the drive. If you find a jumper remove it as the Mac I have stated can do Sata 300 (Sata 2).

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Quote from: fafner on 20-April-05, 03:01:10
SATA drives have their own cables and ports. They don't get attached to IDE cables. There is no such things as master and slave settings for SATA HDDs. But yes you can run both on the system, assuming your mb has SATA ports.
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How can I be sure I am getting the hypothetical 300MB/S?
Thanks so much for helping me out.
Peter

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SATA I in IDE/ENHANCED mode FORCE GEN I
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Random Access: 19.5ms
CPU utilization: 2%
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SATA II in IDE/ENHANCED mode Force GEN II
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Random Access: 19.4ms
CPU utilization: 2%
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Random Access: 21.8ms
CPU utilization: 1%
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Burst Speed : 320.9 mb/s
Average Read : 120.3 mb/s
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100940.40
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Thanks Maesus. Will the drive from an AHCI machine only work in another machine set up with AHCI?
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I ask this because there's a thread here that gives instructions on how to turn on AHCI after Win XP has been installed. That tends to suggest that AHCI makes a difference to an operating system install.
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Or is it a case that the disk's data can still be read on another machine without AHCI but it can't be used to run Win XP? I just need to know that I can pull my data hard disk out of my system and access it on another older machine that doesn't have ACHI.
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Hopefully one day soon I'll reach a critical threshold of knowledge and actually start ordering the parts for my build.
Teresa
Let's make it simple. Treat IDE, AHCI and RAID-0 as different HDD drivers. WinXP has IDE driver built-in. Vista should have all drivers built-in. IDE and AHCI data structure is the same. However, RAID-0 data structure stored in the HDD is different and is controller-bound.
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Why is the Hitachi default drive limited to SATA-150 ?!?! That is bogus.

I have had a HP TX2110us (aka tx2000) tablet for a few years. I'm happy that I've suffered no overheating issues since RMA'ing it immediately after I purchased it.
One thing that really frustrates me though is the fact that the default Hitachi HTS543225L9A300 is capable of SATA-300 yet is limited to SATA-150 max transfer rates as reflected from the nForce SATA controller, both on the the default Vista OS and upgraded Windows 7.
That is just baffling for HP to force such limitations on consumers that are right to expect that hardware they purchase should perform to spec. If this is, as I suspect, an underhanded strategy to force consumers into pricier purchases I find it duplicitous marketing at its worst. The consumer should have every right to think that when they purchase a laptop that has a SATA-300 drive in it, it will be equipped with the proper SATA controller that would enable it to perform at its intended speed ... not a super sub-par SATA-150 transfer rate that was all the rage in 2004. How could any ethical vendor justify such marketing deceit?
Just like I hate thinking about how HP limits your ability to upgrade the abysmal internal mini-pci wireless card with their BIOS white list limiting you only to the card model and vendor they chose to equip it with OEM, all seemingly in the name of the profitable exclusive contracts they work out with their vending parters at the expense of their own customers! Are they truly only targeting the dumbed down customer that wouldn't know the difference between SATA-150 and SATA-300 that requires their purchase of HP service contracts or pricier "options" to do any basic upgrades? If so, they appear to be doing a fantastic job.

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I have a PowerMac G5 Dual 2ghz, does it make any difference whether you use a SATA 150 or 300 hard drive in this Mac? Does the controller care, or are their compatability and performance issues with going to a 300 if the controller is only 150. I am assuming that the Controller in this model is only a 150 Correct?
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SATA 300 disk on SATA 150 controller

Greetings:
A friend of mine has a MacBook Pro with these specs:
Model :          MacBook Pro
Model ID:          MacBookPro1,1
CPU :          Intel Core Duo
CPU Speed :          2 GHz
Number of CPUs :          1
Number of cores :          2
Level 2 cache:          2 Mo
Memory :          2 Go
Bus speed:          667 MHz
ROM:          MBP11.0055.B08
SMC:          1.2f10
Serial number :          3M6371LAVWW
UUID :          00000000-0000-1000-8000-0016CB9F513F
Now the question for you: he wants to change his hard drive, we found SATA 300 at 7200 rpm but I am not sure if this will be compatible as this MacBook Pro (it is the previous version than unibody models) has a disk with SATA 150 at 5400 rpm.
Do you think I can install a SATA 300 at 7200 rpm on this machine?
Thanks a lot
Claudio

Hi there..
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I just wanted to follow up with an update on my progress.
I put the 2TB drive back in and I did a green field build from media and everything went fine.
I went into the bios and flushed the device configurations. Some of the documentation that I was able to find suggest that you need to perform a low level format but I did not have to do that.
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MOVED: K8N Neo2 question about overclocking and sata ports 1 & 2

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Quote from: SteveH647 on 24-September-09, 04:39:34
But is it the HDD itself that fails at the higher frequency? Or is it the HDD controller on the motherboard that fails? What about DVD drives? And what if the HDD is SATA 300 instead of SATA 150?
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But is it the HDD itself that fails at the higher frequency?
Yes.
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Or is it the HDD controller on the motherboard that fails?
No
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What about DVD drives?
Can't tell you, haven't maked such experiments.
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And what if the HDD is SATA 300 instead of SATA 150?
It will not change anything.

K8N Neo2 question about overclocking and sata ports 1 & 2

Hi guys,
I know that when overclocking, sata ports 1 & 2 cannot be locked like sata ports 3 & 4, and therefore hard drives on ports 1 & 2 can be corrupted. However, I would like to understand what is failing when the unlocked ports get overclocked. Is it the motherboard that makes mistakes or is it the drive? Since the ports on the K8N Neo2 are Sata 150 (correct me if i'm wrong), would buying a sata 300 drive be able to survive overclocking? Also, I would like to know the effect of overclocked sata ports on dvd burners as opposed to hard drives. I am looking to buy two new Dvd drives/burners for this board and I would like to avoid buying IDE again.
So, can anyone answer the above questions in detail?
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Quote from: SteveH647 on 24-September-09, 04:39:34
But is it the HDD itself that fails at the higher frequency? Or is it the HDD controller on the motherboard that fails? What about DVD drives? And what if the HDD is SATA 300 instead of SATA 150?
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But is it the HDD itself that fails at the higher frequency?
Yes.
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Or is it the HDD controller on the motherboard that fails?
No
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What about DVD drives?
Can't tell you, haven't maked such experiments.
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And what if the HDD is SATA 300 instead of SATA 150?
It will not change anything.

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