SATA,ATA,IDE,DDR and BIOS

My head is scratching alot now.
I got the following system:
-Antec Truepower 480W ATX
-MSI 6570 Delta-ILSR
-AMD 3200+ 400MHz, Tt VOLCANO 12 EXTREME
-2x512Mb pc3200-DDR 400 Elixer
-SATA 160Gb Seagate (brand new, want it like "C:" )
-ATA/100 IBM Deskstar 40Gb (old XP "C:", want it like a "slave" but not formated)
-ATA/100 IBM Deskstar 120Gb ("Slave")
-Samsung CD/DVD
-Samsung CD-R,CD-RW
-AGP: WinFast Titanium 500 TDH
-PCI: netcard
my problem is the same as many other people, cant configure the system.
I have been trying 2xATA/100 on IDE 1 as master and slave, the Jumper settings on the hd putted like device 0 master and the other as device 1 slave
The SATA (Seagate 160 Gb) I just connected as normal.
IDE 2 i have the CD-DVD(master) and CD-RW(slave)
BIOS set up i been trying to boot in following order:
First - CDROM
Second - FLOPPY
Third - SCSI
other BIOS setting i have to think about ?
1.Booting system - Ctrl+F - SATA is found
2.Boot cd - Win XP Pro+ SP1 ----> F6 installing 2000/XP Promise SATA fast track from A:
3.reboot and start installation
4. cant install from SATA no drivers on that disk , no partition :-(
what am I doing wrong ?
And then the thing with the DDR´s
is it true that i cant use my 2x512mb PC3200 in dual mode because they are from Elixer ?

First strip your set up back to a CD and the SATA drive also if have a Zip unplug it.
Creat an array using the Ctrl f keys when the screen flashes during boot up it is the secound screen during boot. Sense you only have 1 Sata drive leave it's jumpers the way they or set by manufactor. If you have changed them set them to cable select.
Creat a Raid O with only the one drive.
when done say yes when computer starts to install drivers the first screen will ask if you have a SCSI hit F6 key do so.
When it is done loading the drivers it will ask if you have any disk drivers to load click S do so it will ask for SATA 3.5 disk put it in and click yes. This only install it in memory and will need it again when done installing OS. Don't use the SATA drivers that come on the OS disk they or for a PCI conltroler.
Now go on and install your OS if you want it on this drive.
After doen installing OS and during first Boot go into Bios and set Bios to boot Floppy first CD secound and than SCSI. IF you installed OS on the SATA drive you must have SCSI in boot order to work.
Finish loading programs and than hook up your other drives on your IDE one as master the other as slave.

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I personally have the following drives running on my MSI 865PE Neo 2 S mobo without any problem...:
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