Sata Drive lockup Issue K8N Neo Platinum

Issue started with Bios update to 1.8. Stable system for the previous 10 months until Bios update, now appears I have all kinds of failing hardware(although I'll explain why I don't). After finally flashing back to 1.7 and reloading operating system, fighiting with sata drives, network card connection, mouse, and USB connections - I am out of ideas. My latest problem is I have 2 WD raptor 74GIG hardrives, which I can't run at the same time. No raid configuration, running on Sata 3 and 4(yes tried 1 and 2). Anytime I write or access drive 2(d) my computer locks up. If I change the drives around and load operating system on other drive, still have same issue only 1 drive works at a time. Not a hardware issue with the drives(maybe motherboard?) Running AMD 64 3400, K8N Neo Platinum Board with 1 gig corsair recommended memory, 6800 GT Nvidia card, soundblaster audigy. Bios set to defaults, XP professional SP2. Anyone seen had this issue that can recommend what to do from here?

I have had similar BIOS issues This Thread. I believe that flashing back to 1.5 will help you, then try 1.6, I have tried going back to 1.7 after 1.8 and 1.9 and continued to have problems, so for me going back to 1.5 has been the best so far. Good Luck.

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Pen drive as A: - K8N Neo Platinum?

Is it possible to make a pen drive appear as A: on the K8N Neo Platinum?
My floppy has failed, and I am thinking of replacing it with a pen drive. I'd like it to appear as A:, so that it can be used for the BIOS recovery procedure that looks to that drive.
Thanks in advance.
[EDIT] Now have the flash drive and it boots as A:

Is it possible to make a pen drive appear as A: on the K8N Neo Platinum?
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Thanks in advance.
[EDIT] Now have the flash drive and it boots as A:

Cool n quiet issue - K8N Neo Platinum

Hmm, I have been having a weird problem with CNQ as of this morning all of a sudden...
Last night i had CNQ working perfectly fine and this morning it is doing this:
I have the latest CPU driver installed from http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html
and it is enabled in the bios, also my in my power options i have it set to minimal power management.
is there something im forgetting to do/missing?

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That's a load of bull. The CPU will automatically ramp up to full speed as soon as you start putting a load on it. I have specifically tested this with benchmarks and there is no difference in the results with CnQ enabled and with CnQ disabled.
Being a die-hard sceptic, I decided to try this for myself.
Running at stock (11*200), with CNQ enabled, I actually found that Sandra cpu benchmarks (arithmetic and multimedia) were significantly better than with it disabled.
I'm talking about over a 10% improvement, not just a few hundred points.
Ram bandwidths were no different.
What is going on?
Edit: Now all I have to do is figure out why I can't get it to work with my PC OC'd

PC wont boot after installing nforce driver on MSI K8N Neo Platinum

After installing the nforce driver my system won't boot again. If i use safe mode it stops at the file mup.sys . Does anybody know anything about this?

Can you provide a signature with all of your hardware information like my signature (see below). Include drives and locations. Better chance you'll get help that way

K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) drives

the lastest drives from my K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) (socket 754) are 5.03 ?
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_list.php?part=1&kind=1&CHIP=1&COM=4
Thanks

Ouuchh!! Hown uninstall my old drives 5.03 ?
After installing 5.10 I will not have problems with my all drives (Ati 9600 xt /soundblaster live ) ?
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I suppose the problem is my a memory
DIMM 1
Module Name   SMT-OF-AMERICA
Module Size   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type   Unbuffered
Memory Type   DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed   PC2700 (166 MHz)
Module Width   64 bit
Module Voltage   SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method   None
Refresh Rate   Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Memory Timings
@ 166 MHz   2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
@ 133 MHz   2.0-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
DIMM 2
Memory Module Properties
Module Name   SpecTek
Module Size   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type   Unbuffered
Memory Type   DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed   PC2700 (166 MHz)
Module Width   64 bit
Module Voltage   SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method   None
Refresh Rate   Reduced (7.8 us)
Memory Timings
@ 166 MHz   2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
@ 100 MHz   2.0-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Sorry for my English

K8n Neo Platinum non-booting SATA RAID setup question

I've spent several hours searching an reading trying to find out how to setup a non-bootable SATA RAID. All I can seem to find are posts about bootable installs using F6 and the drivers on a floppy.
I have setup the disks in the bios an defined the array an everything checks out. But when I boot back to WindowsXP it only sees 2 drives that it cannot find drivers for even if I point it to the correct Nvidia directory. I attempted to just reinstall the drivers but that caused a Bluescreen from a corrupt driver file that I then had to go into the repair console to copy from a floppy.
The manual an a couple of posts here say that I should go into Admin Tools-> Disk Management an it will then popup a wizard. But I'm not getting that far.
I currently have the disks on SATA 1 and 2 but will move them tonite because I've read its better for them to be on 3 and 4.
This is on a K8N Neo Platinum 7030 on Windows XP SP2. If anyone could help or just point me to where I can find help it would be greatly appreciated.

When the raid controller is enabled in bios and you start windows you can install the nvidia raid driver
from within windows .
Use the add hardware wizard from control panel .
Start the add-hw wizard .
Yes i have connected the hw - next .
Add a new hw device (bottom of the list ) -next .
Install the hw that i select manually from a list - next .
Select scsi/raid controller - next .
Choose have disk .
Then browse for the location of the nvraid.inf file

MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM BlueScreen Issue! Help!

I'm having an issue with my MSI K8N NEO i get the blue screens occasionally.. A friend of mine says its a IDE driver issue.. LMK Here are the system specifications.
MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM
ATHLON64 3000+ @2.01 (stock)
SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200 CAS 2.5
PNY MX440 64MB DDR AGP8X
MAXTOR DIAMONDPLUS MAX 8 40GB, 7200RPM SLIM
300W GENERIC PS
LMK whats wrong if you have ideas, i dont know if you have sufficient information to come up with a conclusion.. im not too sure whats going on either.. But A friend of mine is getting exact same issues he says its IDE conflicts.. now when the Blue screen comes up it doesnt stay long enough to give a moment to read it.. lmk if you have ideas thx..

which drivers are you using?
Right click MY computer -> properties -> Advance -> start up and recovery -> system failure -> uncheck "automatically restart"
this way it will stop at the blue screen and get an stop error number
Or view the error log
Help and support -> Pick a Task ->Use Tools to view your computer information and diagnose problems ->under Tools -> my computer Information-> View Advanced System Information -> View error log
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K8n neo Platinum and Optical Drive problem?

I need some help figuring this out. I've been searching for awhile but can't find any more information so I figured I'd ask here.
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
The problem is on the 411S where it will read the DVD/CD disk but when I try to use Cyberlink PowerDVD or Nero Recode to play or read the DVD it will just hang. If I don't try to play these files and just open them in explorer then I can access them.
I'm trying to see if there are some conflict issues with the nforce drivers but am still looking.
My setup is this.
AMD 64 3000+
K8n Neo Platinum nforce 3 250 Bios 1.4
Western Digital 120 gb hd
PQI 3200 1 gig memory
PNY 6800 GT
Audigy 2
Antec Trupower 420
Any help would be great as I'm totally stuck. Thanks.
Also to note I can play DVDs and use recode fine off the DVD rom drive but just not off the DVD writer (411s).

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Originally posted by BluddSimple
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
You might have better luck making the reader the slave on the channel your HD is on. I had both a burner/writer on the same channel and while it worked, the performance was very poor.
Man, I need to get around to posting my specs someday, but I have the same MB and BIOS as you. I'm also using the nForce unified drivers including IDE.

K8n neo platinum and hard drive problem...

greetings...
well, I have K8n neo platinum mobo with SATA1 controller, and I bought WD 250 GB sata2. I did set up jumper to limit transfer to SATA1 mode on my new drive (although I tried it without jumper, it is the same). Hard disk is working but, I have varying trasfer rate when I copy files from WD250 on other drives, and when copying on that drive. Transfer is going fine, and then it goes very very slow, then again fast, then again slow...And, sometimes, when I am copying large amount of data on that drive, my computer freezes. When I test sustained speed, it is different almost every time (goes from 14 to 65)...
I searched thru internet - with no sucess. I have very good power for my PC. I changed sata cables, and power cables. I updated all drivers. I tried installing XP IDE drivers for that new SATA2 hard disk. I tried almost everything, and with no sucess. WD250 is working fine for, let's say, a couple of hours, and then it again goes slow with varying transfer rate when copying. I also have a very good cooling system, so it's not because of overheating. I contacted WD, they told me to run their diagnostic tool, and the disk was healthy. They said that drive is ok then, and that it is probably my mobo that is causing problems.
anyone have a clue what is going on?
thanx in advance

damn...
can't believe no one ever had similar problem...

K8N Neo Platinum and Maxtor SATA II 250GB 6V250F0

Hi folks,
Having a bit of fun with this one. After first installing the new hard drive (Maxtor SATA II 250GB 6V250F0) , the BIOS immediately recognised it, I could boot into Windows, and Windows recognised it, and I thought I was in for a smooth ride. Sadly, the good news ends there.
Tried to initialise the disk, but this simply gave an error after a few seconds, and wrote a whole load of controller error messages to the system event log. Since then, I've done the following troubleshooting steps:-
(1) Tried in Normal Mode and Safe Mode, made no difference.
(2) Tried with the jumper on the back of the drive set to limit it to SATA I, as I'm connecting to SATA I controllers on the motherboard. Made no difference with it on or off. Tried a second jumper just in case the first one was faulty; still made no difference.
(3) Tried using different power cables and molex connectors; made no difference.
(4) Tried using different data cables; made no difference.
(5) Tried connecting to each of the four SATA ports; made no difference. Tested each port with another drive ((an older Maxtor SATA I drive, which has always worked fine), and they each worked fine.
(6) Tried with and without another SATA drive (an older Maxtor SATA I drive, which has always worked fine); made no difference.
(7) Checked the drive firmware (VA111630); apparently already the latest.
(8) Used the nVidia registry fix to disable NCQ; made no difference.
(9) Disabled write caching; made no difference.
(10) Ran powermax 4.22 to test the drive, and it reports no problems with the drive at all. Did the full surface scan just in case, and a burn-in test; these also reported no problems. Curiously, they also reported no problems when I did the same tests with the back jumper removed; i.e. running it in SATA II mode when connected to a SATA I port apparently didn't bother powermax. Go figure.
The only way I've got anything to happen with the drive so far is to set it to run in PIO mode(!), which I did briefly, and which enabled the drive to be initialised in Windows. Haven't tried much else in that mode yet, not least because I have no intention of actually using it in that mode for obvious reasons.
So...we have a perfectly functioning disk, attached to a perfectly functioning SATA port, with supposed complete compatibility between them, and with pretty much all other bases covered, and the end result is...it doesn't work.
Has *anyone* got this particular drive model (Maxtor 6V250F0) to work with a K8N Neo Platinum, and if so, how??? ??? ???

Latest Update (this is a real Twilight Zone one ):
LOL, well I should have known better than to be optimistic about anything where this drive is concerned. With Windows drivers installed, it seemed to work okay as a storage drive. So I then installed XP on it, and sure enough it hangs when loading the OS. As the next test, I did a clean install of XP on an IDE drive I have installed, which worked fine (could boot no problems). I then cloned that to the Maxtor drive (the clean OS had no nVidia drivers installed), and not only did the Maxtor drive fail to boot, but so did the IDE drive (even though nothing has changed on that drive!) Both would hang at the Windows loading screen. So then I deleted the partition on the Maxtor drive, so it was effectively back to the situation where the IDE drive booted okay previously (with a blank Maxtor drive attached), but now it continued to fail to load. If I unplugged the Maxtor drive, however, then the IDE drive would boot. If I then re-attached the Maxtor drive, the IDE drive would still boot, even though that would be exactly the same situation in which it didn't boot before the Maxtor unplug and replug. In short, it simply makes no sense whatsoever. ???
A summary of facts/findings:-
(1) System works fine; all components checked and pass diagnostic tests, no Windows problems in the event log or device manager, no random crashes or anything like that. The Maxtor drive passes Powermax tests fine.
(2) If the Maxtor drive is attached while using nVidia drivers, it cannot be used at all.
(3) If the Maxtor drive is attached while using Windows drivers (in UDMA6 mode), it can be used in some circumstances (described as follows).
(4) If the Maxtor drive has no OS installed on it, it can be used fine.
(5) If the Maxtor drive has an OS installed on it, it will hang at boot time.
(6) If the Maxtor drive has an OS installed on it, other drives (being booted from) will hang at boot time.
(7) If another drive has failed to boot because the Maxtor drive has an OS on it, deleting all data/partitions from the Maxtor drive will not enable the first drive to boot.
(8) If another drive has failed to boot because the Maxtor drive has/had an OS on it, unattaching the Maxtor drive will enable it to boot once again.
(9) Once another drive has managed to boot again, the Maxtor drive can be reattached (with data/partitions having been deleted), and it will boot again. If it still has the OS on it, however, it will cause the first drive to hang again.
(10) None of this highly abnormal behaviour is experienced using a Samsung Spinpoint drive (with the same SATA II interface) instead.
What really puzzles me about this is the apparent memory of the system for the previous boot. (7) and (9) above are identical in the conditions of the drives when the boot is made, and the only difference in the situation is that before (7) the previous boot has failed, and before (9) the previous boot has succeeded. How/why that should influence the current boot (after a hard reset, with power down in between to ensure no residual current effects), and why this should interact with the Maxtor drive but not any other drive, is a complete mystery. It's also pretty odd that an OS can boot when the Maxtor drive has ordinary data on it, but will hang if the Maxtor drive has an OS on it.
There is clearly a lot more going on here than any standard version of the way OSs boot and load drivers can account for.

K8N Neo Platinum driver installation

There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
Perion
[Soon to build]
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3200+
Corsair Value Select Mod# VS1GBKIT400
--> 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 CAS Latency 2.5
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Mod# WD1200JD
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128M
Thermaltake Gaming Tower XaserV Series Mod# V7000+
--> Case Fans: 2 x 80mm, 3 x 90mm
ENERMAX 460W PSU Mod# EG465AX-VE (W)FMA
--> 3.3V@35A, +5V@35A, -5V@1A, +12V@33A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N Neo Platinum nf3 250Gb SATA RAID question?

Hi all I'm ready to make the move to an AMD A64 setup from my currnet P4.
You all know what a tough job it is to find the right motherboard for an A64
After much research I think the K8N Neo Platinum is the board for me, but there's one question I can't find an answer too. So I'm turning to this forum. Thanks much for any help.
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I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum, which uses a NForce3 250Gb chipset. I have read that port multipliers can use either SATA or SATA II hosts and drives, but I don't know if the technology is 100%, transparently compatible.
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Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
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Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

Poor SATA Performance out of K8n Neo Plat and Raptor drive

I have a k8N Neo platinum with a new Raptor drive. Is there any reason why, when I set the command queueing option for the drive, my speed test under the device manager for that channel says I am getting a normal speed of 5 and a burst of 5.5? I should be getting 50+ with this drive.
Any thoughts? I have all the latest drivers.

kweckstrom - the reason is this:
There is currently no hardware support for NCQ on Nforce 3 boards - NVidia have only just managed to add it for the NForce4 boards as you know which aint available as yet.
NCQ is running in software mode - hence the reduction of performance - I have the same problem - its a case of deciding if you really need it or not - if you do allot of multi-tasking then its worthwhile otherwise if like me you just game - then its not required.

K8N Neo Platinum - Wake from Hibernate, WOL & MB Backplate - Issues

What can I say. This board has so many frustratingly annoying issues I'm wondering if I've just made a horrible mistake. I got this board for my HTPC hoping it would prove more stable than my Abit KV8 Pro. But stability has become the least of my concerns.
1. A HTPC must be quiet. I have a Zalman 7000B AlCu which is excellent. But the CPU mount backplate on the K8N is *glued* to the motherboard! I can't imagine why anyone would think glueing this thing instead of going with the standard method (held in place by the screws) was a good idea, because it's not. Now I have to void the warranty by taking the backplate off to install the Zalman, because even with the Fanmate at the lowest setting, the stock AMD cooler is too loud (in a whiny sort of way).
If I use a fan forced heater (on minimal heat) to heat up the backplate (this will also heat up the rest of the motherboard), will the glue just melt and the backplate come off cleanly? Or will I be stripping off PCB tracks all over the place?
2. A HTPC must be ready to wake up quickly to deal with program recording. The Webscheduler program can wake up a PC from sleep to commence recording. But the K8N Neo Platinum can't seem to wake up from hibernate (or when shutdown) with a keypress or mouse click even though I've enabled these options in the BIOS. I use a wireless KB & Mouse, but the receiver plugs in to the KB & Mouse PS2 ports (not USB). This worked flawlessly with the Abit board.
Any ideas? Having to get up, go to the HTPC, and press the power button just to wake it up from hibernate is stupid.
3. The HTPC must wake up when somebody tries to connect remotely to the Webscheduler program. I have port forwarding setup on the router. When I connected to the HTPC remotely using my previous Abit KV8 Pro board, the HTPC would wakeup (from hibernate) and within a short time I would be connected. But allowing the MSI board network to wake the PC results in the thing waking up every minute or so (I assume it's either router activity or some other quirk of the MSI board). This didn't happen with the Abit board.
How do I set up the board to behave like my Abit KV8 board did?
4. In fact, there seems to be so little in the way of power management options in the BIOS that I'm wondering if perhaps the BIOS is half cooked or something. I have version 1.4 (so LiveUpdate tells me). Would a BIOS update help? LiveUpdate says I can download 1.6.
Thanks.

Quote from: Supershanks on 23-May-05, 13:59:17
i've no particular interest in wake up technology but my neo platinum wakes up immediately i touch key or mouse, always has so i guess i'ts not bios based.
Is this wake from S1 or S3 state, or wake from hibernate? As I understand it, the PC is off when it is hibernating. The BIOS options only provide for the ability to wake up from sleep using the mouse/keyboard. There are no options to turn on the PC using the mouse/keyboard. I know the nForce3 250GB can do it, because I have a Soltek K8AN2E+ board in my other machine, which does allow me to wake from the off-state.
At the moment, continuous pressing of keys and clicking the mouse does absolutely nothing. It wakes the machine up from sleep (non hibernate) but not from hibernate or power off.
Do any MSI reps frequent these forums? Can they tell me specifically whether the MSI Neo Platinum does have the ability to turn on the PC using the mouse or keyboard, as opposed to merely waking it up from sleep? If this board cannot do this (and it would be one of the very few that can't), then it's useless to me. Having to walk up to the HTPC machine in the lounge room just to turn it on is counterproductive.

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