SATA Emulation: IDE to AHCI. Is it safe?

Hi there,
A newbie here. I just bought HP Z230 workstation with preinstalled Windows7. The machine has one 250GB SSD. I have made a clean install of Windows 8.1 and now I connected another SSD (Samsung EVO 500 GB). What bothers me is that Samsung Magician tells me that EVO is running in IDE or RAID mode (no AHCI). Is it safe for me to go to HP Setup utility/STORAGE OPTIONS and change Emulation from IDE to AHCI? I obviously do not want to cause any harm. EVO will be used just for data storage.
Current settings:
eSATA Port: Disabled
SATA Emulation: IDE
Removable media Boot: Enabled
Max eSATA Speed: 1.5 Gbps
While there, is it safe to enable eSATA Port and increase Max eSATA Speed to 3Gbps (using external Verbatim 53029 500GB from time to time) Thank you!

The mobo was released very long time ago (it doesn?t even support SATA II lol) and BIOS update would likely to solve the BSOD problems but there's no way I'm risking it lol.
My system is running perfectly (well, near perfect lol) and haven?t suffered from any virus attack for more then two years (however, I am aware of the risks)
I'm trying to keep my system in order until next July where I have to perform a major upgrade and install Vista Home Premium (OEM version of cause) but until then, I?m stuck with SPa.
PS: I know IE7 and WMP requires SP2 but I don?t use those anyway lol.Message Edited by XVN5 on -05-200606:4 AM

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