SATA II Issues with 2004 G5

I'm replacing the original 250 GB Hard Drive in my Single 1.8 GHz G5 (Purchased in 2004). I've narrowed down my choice to a 250 GB Western Digital Caviar SE16 or 500 GB Maxtor MaxLine Pro, which are both SATA II .
I wanted to know if either drive would have an issue working in my G5 because they are SATA II. I haven't been able to find a clear answer to this question in other posts so I figured I would ask before I purchased either drive.
Steve
Power Mac G5 Single 1.8   Mac OS X (10.4.9)  

I too would go with the Maxtor drive. Check out the drive compatibility database at http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso to see other users experience with the drive s your considering. That said SATA II drives work fine in older G5's, they'll just work at SATA I speed. Because of that backward compatibility SATA I drives are getting next to impossible to find.

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    Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Backup
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    Keywords:     
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    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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    Source:        BackupAssist
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    Event ID:      5634
    Task Category: None
    Level:         Error
    Keywords:      Classic
    User:          N/A
    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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    Source:        BackupAssist
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    Event ID:      5634
    Task Category: None
    Level:         Error
    Keywords:      Classic
    User:          N/A
    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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            SERVICE_EXIT_CODE  : 0  (0x0)
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            SERVICE_EXIT_CODE  : 0  (0x0)
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            SERVICE_EXIT_CODE  : 0  (0x0)
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            SERVICE_EXIT_CODE  : 0  (0x0)
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    Keywords:      Classic
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    Keywords:      Classic
    User:          N/A
    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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    Event ID:      8193
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    Level:         Error
    Keywords:      Classic
    User:          N/A
    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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    Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Backup
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    Event ID:      754
    Task Category: None
    Level:         Information
    Keywords:     
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    Computer:      mdnfile.Auxiant.local
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      Disk 1    Online         2791 GB      0 B        *    (Data drive - DFS, rsync,etc. run on D: Drive)
      Disk 2    Online         1863 GB      0 B    (USB 2/3.0 - Enclosure w/ SATA disk = 2GB formatted w/ NTFS.)
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    Disk ID: CA0DEEA5
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    Status : Online
    Path   : 1
    Target : 0
    LUN ID : 0
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    Current Read-only State : No
    Read-only  : No
    Boot Disk  : Yes
    Pagefile Disk  : Yes
    Hibernation File Disk  : No
    Crashdump Disk  : Yes
    Clustered Disk  : No
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    Path   : 0
    Target : 0
    LUN ID : 0
    Location Path : UNAVAILABLE
    Current Read-only State : No
    Read-only  : No
    Boot Disk  : No
    Pagefile Disk  : No
    Hibernation File Disk  : No
    Crashdump Disk  : No
    Clustered Disk  : No
      Volume ###  Ltr  Label        Fs     Type        Size     Status     Info
      Volume 4     F   BACKUPS      NTFS   Partition   1863 GB  Healthy
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    (C) Copyright 2004 Microsoft Corp.
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    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    The volume is in use by another process. Chkdsk
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    WARNING!  F parameter not specified.
    Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.
    CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
      116224 file records processed.
    File verification completed.
      654 large file records processed.
      0 bad file records processed.
      0 EA records processed.
      76 reparse records processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
      156676 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed.
      0 unindexed files scanned.
      0 unindexed files recovered.
    CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
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    Security descriptor verification completed.
      20227 data files processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
      35628352 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.
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     289233919 KB total disk space.
     100241492 KB in 85477 files.
         57380 KB in 20228 indexes.
             0 KB in bad sectors.
        226627 KB in use by the system.
         65536 KB occupied by the log file.
     188708420 KB available on disk.
          4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
      72308479 total allocation units on disk.
      47177105 allocation units available on disk.
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    C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsServerBackup\
    Wbadmin.1.etl = 9:42AM on 8/12
    Wbadmin.2.etl = 4:51AM on 8/12
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    http://blogs.technet.com/b/filecab/archive/2009/09/16/diagnosing-failures-in-windows-server-backup-part-1-vss-spp-errors.aspx
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