Sata install on k7n2 delta 2 platinum

Specs:
AMD 3000 xp
2 No. Kingston PC3200 256 = 512
Maxtor 80 gig sata hdd
cd rom (noting fancy)
msi fx 5700 le 256
Pleaes advise on how to install an sata hdd on the m/b.
I boot using the XP boot disks and after disk #6 I get errors cannot find ntldr.
Please help.

you can find great tutorials to make your own bootable win xp disk, if for some reason you cant boot the one you "bought".  (dont want to go into it)
as long as you own the respective rights, this link will help:  Bootable WinXP CD
then just hit f6, use the drivers that came with the mobo, and have fun  
this information will help if there is something wrong with the boot disks

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    Hi All
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    XP went as far as going to the lovely bright XP installation screen and has installed hardware. When it got to installing the network it just froze up and stopped working.
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    G_N

    Quote from: tyongchi on 15-September-05, 01:14:59
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  • RAID not fault tolerant on K7N2 Delta 2 Platinum?

    Hi all,
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      So it is looking increasingly like a conflict with the Athlon's of the 1800 variety...
    On an aside about temps, I found that an hour on Prime95 can "cook" the artic silver and gain anything up to a 4 degree average cooler temp, I also use S2K bus disconnect software as well as them Palomino cores don't like switching themselves off into the halt states do they?
    BTW Delux state that the PSU should exceed the given expectations but I wonder about this as I had to condition the output because it was quite wide in its fluctuations on the scope, I found a thing on the net on how to condition the output, so that it never drops under the expected voltage but can freely be drawn on as demand requires.   The advantage of the Peliter kit was I could run other fans directly off it leaving the 12V rails with less demand but pulse emulators are never as good as a 2700rpm rotor in keeping the board assured that a fan is spinning.   The MSI board isn't exactly abound with fan plugs...
    Thanks all again
    Ancient One

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