Sata issues with k8n-fsr

Hi list!
I have serious issues with my sata drive on my K8N Neo-FSR.
The SATA drive is connected on the SATA3 controller, and an IDE DVD is connected as master on IDE channel 1. The DVD is detected by the BIOS and can be booted...
BUT, the SATA hard drive is not detected by the BIOS, and so neither by WinXP or Linux installers...
I tried loads of configurations settings in the BIOS like SATA3/4 Enabled, RAID IDE enabled, ... Boot priority options do not show the HD...
Please help!!!!!!!
Here is my config:
MSI K8N Neo-FSR (NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb)
Hitachi 160 Go 7200 RPM 8 Mo Serial ATA (bulk)
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro
NEC ND-3500 - DVD(+/-)RW

hi zorloc,
looking at size of your new drives are they the new ncq capable seagates, in which case it may be a compatability issue. Maxtor 10 series users have had similar issues.
Try updating bios to the new officiial v1.5 which has Raid v4.6 & may be better for these drives.
You'd also be best upgrading to the latest Nvidia 5.1 drivers .
Other than this Try & see if any of the fixes that worked for the Maxtor users work for you.
see Maxtor 16Mb Cache HDDs & Neo2 Problems there are several more member €ric had some success at end of included thread.
Edit: This may also be of interest Ech a fellow Neo 754 user has had a long stuggle trying to get his maxtor 10 to work Updated Neo BIOS to fix Maxtor 16Mb problem?
luck

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This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
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