SATA or IDE

Hi there !
simple question for you :
what is the difference between SATA and IDE, for Hard drvives ?
Is one of the interfaces quicker than the other ?
Thanks !

Ok first off
1. What is Serial ATA?
2. Yes Serial ATA is faster and allows better air flow with SATA cables.
and most of the time will offer "Raid"

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Quote from: jsmartin22 on 16-June-07, 14:51:31
I thought perhaps there would be a difference data rates between the IDE/SATA, which arise only when you reach a specific # of SATA drives--in which case it might be better to begin using IDE. Looks like I was wrong. Thx.
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AUS,
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