SATA, or SATAE drives???

My supplier tells me it is getting harder to get external firewire drives as the new SATA(E) drives are taking over.
I've got a MacBook Pro and a G5 Tower. I use a LOT of external drives.
What is Apple's take on this?
All ears...
Ben

Hi Ben,
I would respectfully suggest that you change suppliers.
There are plenty of sources for firewire drives, both online and in relevant retail outlets. Of course technology is continuously evolving but firewire will be with us for quite a long time.
Of course, eSATA drives have many benefits over firewire. That's not a problem though. If you have a MacBook Pro simply buy an eSATA Expresscard 34 and you will be able to connect the drives. With a Mac Pro or G5, again, an eSATA card slotted into one of the slots resolves the problem.
RD

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So that I get this right, you cloned the internal OS X drive onto an external FW-SATA HDD using SuperDuper! ?
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A quick trawl through the knowledge base should reference any info that the iMac only supports SATA I for your revision, which I'm guessing is A.
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NEED A SATA CD-ROM DRIVE!

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Apart what NovJoe already suggested, I never heard about a sata DVD-Rom. If you ran out of IDE ports, you can try to install a PCI IDE card and get 2 more ports. Of course if you haven't any free PCI slot, well that's kinda problem.
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Or am I trying to cram a V8 Hemi engine into my Mini Cooper, but just hooking it up to my 4-spark plug ignition system to run it on four cylinders?
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I believe it depends on the version of the m series you have.
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Jeremy,
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Will the1TB SATA Hard Disk Drive Kit for Mac Pro now in the Mac Store work with my Mac Pro1,1?

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WD Caviar Black 1TB 6Gb
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Just noticed Amazon having better prices than Newegg on 1TB - and WD and Hitachi.
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T60 Sata 2 Hard Drive

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I know this topic is in forums alot but i just wanted to confirm,
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I'm interested to hear how Fishbert is doing with cable replacement…
So far, so good.
One of the symptoms of this issue is an incrementing of the drive's CRC error count.* Back on the 28th (right after doing the cable replacement), S.M.A.R.T. Utility told me my CRC error count was at 6322. From early July when I upgraded to EFI 1.7, until the rollback tool was released (in August?), this was how high the counter had climbed… plus a bit from testing back-and-forth when PU1.0 showed up.
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* Again, there seems to be more than 1 issue that people have come in here with, but CRC errors was identified fairly early on as a characteristic of this issue, and is one I definitely saw on my machine, so I use it here to illustrate the difference I see.
it seems like only solution is changing the SATA-cable, the problem; it's out of stock at third party vendors. (hot Christmas gift, everyone is buying it), Fishbert how is it holding? give us an update.

6560b notebook - no sata-III ssd drives detected - hardware problem - HP employee needed

hello,
I'm one of the authors of this thread about the problem statet in the title.
As the current forum thread might be slightly misplaced under 'Notebooks>Updates', I opened this thread here to get contact to one of the experts from HP.
We need technical support. We have tried every possible solution to fix this problem.
As several owners of the 6560b have experienced, sata-III SSD drives don't work in any of the two internal drive slots of the 6560b.
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There is no known 6560b notebook running an internal sata-III drive.
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Kingston HyperX 120GB - Sata-III
Corsair Force3 120GB - Sata-III
Corsair Force GT 120GB - Sata-III
Intel 510 - Sata-III
OCZ Vertex 3 - Sata-III
OCZ Agility 3 - Sata-III
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(verified by one user)
This, however, is no usuable workaround.
A short summary of the impact of this bug:
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UEFI has been enable. I have to degrade manually, in BIOS settings, SATA3 (6Gbps) to SATA2 (3Gbps) for the drive to be usable. But perfs are not here for that kind of drive, so I'm very upset about that.
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Neo4 Platinum - Booting 2 SATA 3.0 drives in RAID 0

I know I'm new to this forum, but I've actually been searching for hours on this subject just today hehe.
Anyway, from what the manual is saying for the K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard, you have to use the Silicon RAID controller in order to create a bootable RAID array. Is this true?
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Sorry, to bring bad new, with K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard you have to define what the features of a SATA II drive has before you say that you can create and use a RAID 0 array on the nVidia nForce4 Chipset. If the SATA II drive has both 3Gb/s speed and NCQ the current drivers list on MSI Download page, unless they upgrade them today, will not produce a functional RAID 0 Bootable Array.
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I have been working with MSI Support for over a month now, testing pre-beta BIOS and Pre-Beta Drives. Both the BIOS and RAID Controller drives have problem. The BIOS V1.B and a yet unreleased pre-beta drive will get you a functional RAID 0 running Windows XP Pro 32-bit Edition. There is no driver for Win XP PRO 64 Edition.
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K8N Neo4 Platinum, how to move MBR to sata (make it drive #1)?

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So I rebooted and disabled the ide bus that contained the old IDE drive and just left the CD ide bus enabled. WinXP installed fine with no complaints. Then it rebooted and I re-enabled the ide bus in the bios. It wouldn't boot into the partiton I just installed winxp on! To get it to boot, I had to use F11 (the bios boot menu) and select the sata drive. Went through the whole setup winXP thing and rebooted. Same problem, it wouldn't boot the sata drive. :(
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Thank you for your replies! Hans, thank you I will give it a go again doing full formats all the way. I usually use the full format when installing winXP but I did things in a different order than you instructed so I will definately try it.
Aicjofs, thank you, There are 3 hard drives in this system currently. There is the ide hard drive that used to be the "c" drive (a western digital 160gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache) and a second ide hard drive that is an extended partition with 1 logical drive with data on it (western digital 300gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache). Then there is a sata hard drive in sata1 port with 2 partitions one primary and one extended. The extended partion does have data on it as I moved stuff there after I got winXP up the 2nd time (western digital 250gb sata II 7200rpm 16mg cache). Right now, I have the ide drive with data on it as ide2 master and the old "c" drive as ide2 slave and it is unformatted and contains no partion information (I deleted the partition after I installed the SATA drive and installed winXP). XP won't boot. What happens is that, if I take the winxp cd out, it gives me a "no system" error. If I leave the WinXP cd in it boots that disk. However, if I use "f11" and choose to boot the sata drive, winxp comes up just fine. If I disable the ide bus with the two ide hard drives, it boots winxp just fine.
Edit: bios is v1.D. It feels like this mobo is telling windows setup that the master ide drive is the first disk and to ignore everything else. It feels like if I can just tell the mobo that the sata drive is the first disk then everything will work . It is late night where I am now, and I've been fighting with this since the afternoon so I might have to goto sleep but I will be back at it tomorrow and will go though what Hans instructed. If anyone has any otehr ideas, I'd really appreciate that as well.

SATA Hard Disk Drives?

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As far as I know the AppleTV hardware hasn`t been changed since they were first released, so it`s still a 2.5" drive on a IDE interface.

Will a SATA III Hard Drive work on a Mac Pro 2,1 (2008)

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SSDs are a more interesting matter in choice and support... but not traditional platter type drives.
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