SATA / PATA Drive Detection Issues
I have my SATA hard disk on the primary (0) SATA channel and my DVD-RW on the primary PATA channel. This has worked fine since I've had this set up, but I've recently run into some trouble with it.
I hooked up a PATA hard drive in place of the DVD-RW to pull some data off it. When I tried to boot, it only detected the new drive and couldn't boot from it (Win 2000 blue screen). It didn't even see the original hard drive.
I messed around with the various modes under "On-chip IDE Configuration" and no matter what I do I cannot get it to detect 2 devices at once. There doesn't seem to be any consistency to the results it produces.
I have updated to the latest BIOS (2.2).
Firstly, why can you select SATA / PATA Only, and then keep the other enabled? What is the best setting for my two drives? I originally had it set to PATA Only and keep SATA enabled I think (on advice from people on this board).
If i'm not using RAID, I can disable "Onboard Promise IDE" right?
All help greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
The most likely reasons for the SATA to not be detected in the Standard Cmos in the order I would check them:
1. Data and power cables firmly connected(remove and re-attach to be sure).
2. Bios>>Integrated Peripherals>>On Chip IDE Config:
- SATA Keep enabled-Yes
- Configured as Raid- NO (Yes removes it from the Standard CMOS Features)
3. Drive no good
Make sure you have other IDE HDD's removed till you get this working again.
And yes, if you have nothing attached to Serial3&4, IDE3 you can set the Promise controller to Disabled.
Edit:
Oops, I didn't see the last post. Glad you got it!
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Originally posted by Raven_
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Originally posted by boucher91
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