SATA port multiplier on MSI K8N Neo Platinum - NForce3 250Gb?

Hi,
I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum, which uses a NForce3 250Gb chipset. I have read that port multipliers can use either SATA or SATA II hosts and drives, but I don't know if the technology is 100%, transparently compatible.
Is the aforementioned chipset/motherboard compatible with port multiplier technology?
Does it support FIS, which gives the greatest perfomance?
Does it need a BIOS or driver update?
Thanks for the attention
Brazilian Joe

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

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Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
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MakubeX,
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Hi!
I have MSI K8N Neo Platinum with chipset NForce3 250GB. It has SATA Controller. Can someone tell me (with certainty), if I can install a SATA 2 drive? (Once I contacted Maxtor, they told me that I would rather not install a SATA2 drive in a NForce3 250GB based mobo) Has anyone had a problem with a SATA2 drive in this mobo?
my pc is:
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum
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Msi K8n Neo Platinum, Nforce3

Hi.
i bought this motherboard, and i was trying to assemble it.
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cd-rom
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Best Regards

Quote from: cRaZyzMaN on 05-December-06, 04:49:19
Sempron 2800+
512mb DDR 333
HD 40gb ide
HD 5gb ide
Ati radeon 9000 agp
cd-rom
420 watts
The motherboard is brand new, and i never used it before.
Is this problem from the motherboard?
Please hepl me.
Best Regards
When did you bought it? How long does the mobo didn been used? Have you tried to reset the Bios again by removing the CMOS battery and leave it for 10-30 min? Make sure you removed the power connector before removing it. Gd luck.
P/S: Please gives more details on your current rig including the PSU and Bios revision like in my sig so others can help you!!

Problems with 64 3200+ on MSI k8n neo platinum.

AMD Athlon64 Newcastle 3200+ AX 2200MHz/2.2GHz 512kb Boxed (with cpu-cooler!) Socket754
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb 3DDR-DIMM 5PCI SATA Raid Audio GB-LAN Firewire Socket754 ATX
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I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
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Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
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The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
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OK,
System will post, according to MSI Website I have the latest Bios version.
I can boot from CD.
The only odd item is that I am using the HD that I took out of my old computer with windows already on it.
Tried re-installing windows XP. It went through the loading process and then rebooted. Same error message appears.
Also, is 48 degrees normal for idle temp on CPU AMD 64 3400? 36 degrees NB temp ok?
Oh, yeah, I have a floppy installed, CD-ROM, CD RW, all non SATA. Using IDE cables.
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Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950 256 TVD
Do I need to clear bios and re-start?
HD is on it's own cable in IDE 1
Cds on IDE 2 shared.
let me know what you think.
The other related posts I read, people were using raid or multiple OS. I'm not.

I had the same issues as you sometimes Windows would install and sometimes it wouldn't the problem was related to ram. I had my ram in slots one and two like you did and I moved the ram to slots 1 and 3 and now the machine is rock solid stable.
I think most of the problems people are having are actually more ram related than anything else.
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4 is the multiplier of the Front Side Bus frequency, default of 200MHz.
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Originally posted by onebyte
>>Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all?
In a word, no.
I've just fired up my first homebuilt last night. Joy! It's all went perfect on the first power-up. I'm in a similar position, and have a single SATA Hitachi Deskstar. Although I've not yet installed an OS, my understanding is that the Serial ATA interface will work just fine with a single drive. No multiple drive RAID is needed.
My understanding is that all you have to be sure to do is load the SATA drivers from the included diskette, by pressing F6 on boot up. Otherwise the drive won't be properly recognized by the bios. I haven't done this yet, and its still showing as an IDE drive in some places of my bios setup.
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