Saturation Differences in LR

I just discovered yesterday that the adjustment brush in 100% saturation mode affects an image differently than using the saturation control alone:
Case 1: All adjustments default, Adjustment brush, custom mode, saturation 100, everything else 0
Case 2: All adjustments default, Saturation slider 100
The two result in different looking images. Could anyone explain why this is the case? With the specified adjustment brush settings, I would have expected it to behave just as the adjustment slider.
Thanks!

Well, the flow and density are both 100%. I just thought it was interesting, and wondered if any wizards knew what was going on behind the scenes. I typically never use the brush at 100% saturation (I rarely use it in color mode in general), so that is why I just discovered this yesterday (been using LR since 1.0).

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Following up to myself here - I was able to get Camera Raw to convert an image such that the L*a*b* numbers matched DNGPE, but Hue and Sat are still off. What I WAS doing previously, to no avail, was converting in Camera Raw using the same BASE profile I had selected in DNGPE. I thought that since I hadn't made any corrections or changes in DNGPE, it would only be applying the base profile, and the images should match.
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Color Profile issues / Colors darken when saving as png/jpg

Hello Adobe Community!
I got a problem with the color settings / profiles in Photoshop and I hope someone can help me.
For the record: I Am working an a PC (Windows 7) with Photoshop CS4.
I work on a digital painting in Photoshop and to keep track of my progression I save frequently as pngs.
I noticed that the colors don't match and are much darker as you can see in the picture below:
I tried the things suggested in many forums, checking and converting my color profiles. For many that seemed to fix it, but not for me.
In the source space you can see the Profile I am using.
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I hope someone has a solution for this problem. After trying so many things I'm getting quite desperate!

always CONVERT to sRGB (if not already there) when saving for the web and unmanages apps
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View> Proof Setup: Monitor RGB (be sure to turn it back off)
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as you probably know, Photoshop normally transforms (changes) the source colors to the monitor profile...

Ramon or Chris Cox or G Ballard - CM ?

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I have my CS4 Color Settings to North American PrePress 2 and have those synced with Bridge.
I am using FireFox with CM and found out that Safari 4 has CM. (I don't use Safari too often and the other day didn't realize that it was CM capable).
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I use a Mocaco XR Optix Pro with the latest version of ColorEyes. I can calibrate and recalibrate and nothing changes. The images will look slightly more saturated in FF and Safari over Bridge and PS4.
I have been in Alaska and not online so have been editing all these images then decided to upload a few the other day, and now I find they are not matching what I view in PS. Hum.
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Randal
ps-
By the way, yes, these are tagged images that I am viewing. Either created by me or downloaded on the net with ICC profiles.
R

UPDATE:
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Is there a difference between vibrance and saturation mask? how can i create it?

Hi
browsing the forum and the net , i found only 2 ways to create a saturation mask
1) using an adjustament layer , selective color
2) using the photoshop plugin
but i have never achieved good results
now reading and browsing the net i found the vibrance mask ->http://goodlight.us/writing/saturationmasks/using-the-photoshop-actions.html
now is there a difference between vibrance mask and saturation mask?
and may i know how do you create a saturation mask or vibrance mask?
thanks
happy new year

hi
i tried to reproduce your skill
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second layer
3 layer
4 layer
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and
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whad do i miss?
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Also, how could I change the chroma of a color in Photoshop?
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c,
You may have a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorfulness
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Saturation and contrast differences

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hello, marie in china
quote: "I can see the changes/adjustments perfectly in Aperture and usually tweak the images to my taste rather quickly, but the adjustments seem to go out the window when the version is exported and put into a browser."
so, if I understand you correctly, the photos you are seeing in a browser like Safari or Omniweb or Firefox etc look different than what you see in Aperture?
this is ok. to fix this set your export Image Quality higher and to the correct ColorSync Profile. do a few exports to your desktop until the photograph is the way you want it and then upload the jpeg to the site.
File>Export>Export version or shift apple e
Export preset: select JPEG and Edit...select appropriate settings
OR,
do you mean that the Aperture browser photographs look different than what you see in the Viewer?
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JPEG exports (sRBG) look overly saturated when viewed in Internet Explorer browser, including when uploading/viewing in Facebook, etc, etc. In other words, the colors looks different between Lightroom and Internet Explorer. (Colors looks the same between Lightroom and Photoshop though.)
As point of reference, when you download a sample JPEG image from Canon EOS's website (used to show sample images from their cameras) you see that those images also use sRGB profile. They also look exactly the same no matter how you view them (Lightroom, Photoshop, Internet Explorer, Safari, etc.).
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Have you got Firefox or Safari on your machine? In which case, how do the images look in either of those browsers? Or, if you're using Windows 7, how do the images look in Windows photo viewer?
Also, can you say what monitor you are using please?
I think it might be a colour management issue. Internet Explorer is not colour managed (not even IE9), Lightroom and Photoshop are colour managed, so is Windows 7 photo viewer (but not the XP equivalent), so are Firefox and Safari (but not Chrome). When there's a difference between how something looks in an non-colour-managed program and colour-manged programs then it's worth checking for colour management issues.
If your monitor has a wider gamut than sRGB, then you would expect IE9 and other non-managed programs to look over-saturated.

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In a nutshell, you have to simplify the frame layer and erase the interior.
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Switch to the Eraser Tool and erase the stuff that's left in the middle:
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OK.
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Still knowing this does not help, it just means what I see on the screen in LR at lower magnification than 1:1 is not accurate.

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Correction - I meant it only changes the CONTRAST a little but NOT the SATURATION. When I double click the thumbnail to reveal the movie clip symbol timeline I can scrub the playhead in the timeline and it functions correctly but when I trigger playing of that timeline with actionscript 3 it only changes the CONTRAST property but not the SATURATION property.

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Adobe, is this a BUG or a FEATURE?

In my opinion: not a good idea to convert old photos en-batch.
Recommend: convert (hand-selected photos) one at a time, or just use PV2012 on new photos.
There are more than one reason:
* As you know, process conversion yields very different results (if photo has been substantially edited).
* It takes some time to polish your PV2012 editing skills.
* Often when you are comparing PV2012 results to previous PV2010 results (which you've become familiar with, and like...), you may interpret differences in a more negative light, than if you were using PV2012 without comparing to a previous PV2010 version.
This last one can not be over-stated. Numerous times I have converted and been disappointed, at least initially. Recovered highlights can seem like loss of contrast. Detail in shadows can be distracting after initial conversion, until you step back for a while, then re-look at it...
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Rob

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I'm experiencing an issue where Safari shows images optimised for the web in a very over saturated form.
It is really driving me mad!
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If I look at the image, it looks just fine in Photoshop or any other image viewing program. If I then open it in Safari it looks way over sturated.
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However, if I choose NOT to embedd the icc profile in the image, then Safari opens the image and it looks just like the jpeg when I view it within Photohop or any other image veiwer.
I can view the images using Internet Explorer on a Windows PC and they appear to be fine. I guess thats because IE ignores colour profiles where Safari will use them if they exist.
It seems Safari is reading the colour profile incorrectly in the image.
Can anyone tell me whats going on?

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I can sympathise with how annoying this must be - and although I haven't looked into it myself, I do recall several other posts over the last 18months or so, with the same issue.
I can't dig out the exact posts now, but maybe the following might lead somewhere?
http://webkit.org/blog/73/color-spaces/
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302827
http://www.gballard.net/psd/golive_pageprofile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html
sorry I can't locate the threads I remember- I found one or two, but they were un-answered.

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