Saved output sized vs. Actual size

I'm using photoshop cs6 on windows 7.
Ok so my image size is about 24x20 and when I save the output of the image is almost half the size. The project has a lot of details so it looks like a big blob shrunken down to half size. I've played around with the settings for hours in save for web option and I get the same results. I would love to know how to save so the output is nearly the original size, or just so you can see the details!
I'm pretty new to photoshop so any help is much appreciated, Thanks!

You didn't mention what units the 24x20 was. {Inches, centimeters, percentage,pixels, etc. }
I think whats happening is the units you mentioned are something other than pixels and save for web uses pixels as it ignores the ppi. Its the ppi that will effect the size when printed.
Example:
{print size X ppi = pixel size}
24" x 20" @ 300 ppi = 7200px x 6000px
24" x 20" @ 72 ppi = 1728px x 1440px
{pixel size / ppi = print size}
1200px x 1600px @300ppi = 4" x 5.33"
1200px x 1600px @72ppi = 16.66" x 22.22"
Because save for web ignores the ppi, most apps including photoshop when opening the file will assume 72ppi.
The ppi also effect the size of the image on screen when selecting a zoom level. To my knowledge that is the only time the ppi has any influence on the screen. As ppi is meant to determine what size the image will be printed at.

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one problem i seem to be having when reducing the bitrate is the file size is oddly increasing from 24.8GB to 26.4GB, i can't really figure this one out as well it's having the oppisite effect. I checked the "streams" folder on output and decided to compare automatic transcoding to manual lowered bitrate and im not too sure where the increased file size is going, i found which video file it was causing the issue, all videos files range or average around 1.6GB each but one file was taking 4.5GB, after lowering that files bitrate it cut it down to 2GB which was of course saving me 2GB from the old file but the overall size had increased which was odd. Seems the other files are all the same so it hasn't tried improving them (so it seems) so i can't make ends of why the size is increasing.
I will try playing with the source file to see if i can do anything that way, if not i will try transcoding in premiere (i have had troubles with this before so i try to avoid it).
Oh and yes i was using Automatic.
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