Saving .eps to .pdf in Classic with Tiger???

Hi,
I have a iMac and have just updated to Tiger OSX 10.4.2. I run Tiger as my general operating system however my version of Quark Xpress runs in the Classic Environment OS 9.
In the past I have saved a Quark Xpress file as an .eps and then gone into Acrobat Distiller and saved it as a .pdf. However since loading Tiger my distiller will not save my .eps file as a .pdf even though I still use both Quark and Distiller in Classic Environment??
Any assistance you could provide to rectify this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joanne Matthews

Thanks, I just tried that but it doesn't retain the fonts? Yet the fonts are active. Any other ideas??

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It's pretty much impossible if you want to retain the vector qualities of the image, and make it arbitrarily scalable.
I suppose you can set some security settings in the PDF with Acrobat Pro and perhaps find some obfuscation tools, but such things can be gotten around.
If you're willing to rasterize it, you can do so in Photoshop. Then they won't be able to edit it as vectors, but it won't be as good.
Fundamentally, this is not a good workflow. Give up on providing clients with uneditable images, or holding the source hostage. Your clients will go elsewhere if you do this, and IMO rightly so.
Low-rez. raster images are generally suitable for a "preview before you buy this artwork" kind of deal, but no more.
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I work for a newspaper and for several months we have had sporadic issues when it comes to making our plates for the press. By issues, I mean those including pages that suddenly print upside down with the text appearing backwards and other instances where the text and images on a page are partially cut off or jagged.
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At the end of this, what I really just want to understand is why did the process I eventually came to (saving .eps file/artwork as .jpg, then after placing it in my ad document, exporting said document as a .jpg) work?

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