Saving Fireworks 8 png files

I am sure this is a well known problem, but I can't find a
solution that works. I am using Fireworks 8 on a PC with Windows
XP. For some unknown reason it has stopped saving png files,
although it will save as gif, jpeg etc.
When I try to save a file I get a message "Could not complete
the requested action. An internal error occurred". It is not a font
problem as it won't save a file which contains no fonts.
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program,
deleting the preference file, but to no effect.
Can someone please point me to a solution that works.
Thanks for the help
MikeB

Sandra A. wrote:
> I cannot get a 532 kb .png to open that was created by
me in
> Fireworks 8. I have tried other similar files with the
same result,
> that is, it opens briefly, then closes and crashes the
program. I
> can creat a new png Any help would be appreciated. This
is the
> sidebar to my entire site!
Try deleting the Fireworks 8 preferences text. On my machine
it's located at
C:\Documents and Settings\Linda Rathgeber\Application
Data\Macromedia\Fireworks 8\English
The file will rebuild itself when you reload the program,
resetting all
the defaults.
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Reaganjudd wrote:
> I have a Fireworks png file that i am trying to save out
as a psd. I can do
> so, but when I open in Photoshop, the layer groups I
created in my Fireworks
> png file are not preserved. The layers stay put, but
photoshop ignores the
> layer folder (or groups) and puts them all in one big
bucket. Is there a way
> to preserve the layer groups during my saving to psd
process?
>
> Also, I have text in my png file that uses -4
letterspacing. When I save as
> PSD, and open in Photoshop, the letterspacing changes to
-40. Anyway to get
> around this? I need to text to remain editable is
photoshop also.
>
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FW there is no way that I know of to preserve this hierarchy
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Here's how I tackled it:
1 Start by making sure that all objects are ungrouped (to
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Chris and Idothings:
Here's a quick example that explains what I am talking about:
Download this 32bit png, and open in Photoshop:
http://www.estructor.biz/testje/heading.psd
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and
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One other disadvantage to Fireworks: no further development. Adobe killed it.
Often 256 indexed colours are not enough. Color Quantize goes one step further, and allows for a limited colour palette of 512, 1024, 2048 and 4096:
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Photoline: 32768 colours 32bit png - 207kb
Photoline: 256 colours 32bit png - 170kb
Fireworks: 256 colour 8bit png + 8bit alpha channel - 54kb
Color Quantizer: 256 colour 8bit png + 8bit alpha channel: 50kb
Color Quantizer: 128 colour 8bit png+ 8bit alpha channel: 41kb
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> How do I set up a good workflow from FW to DW?
Export the graphics from FW and place them on the page in DW.
Don't worry
about any more than that. Trying to use FW to write your HTML
gets everyone
into deep trouble.
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news:[email protected]...
> I'm taking over another person's work and they built the
designs in
> Fireworks.
> I have an HR page that has photos that get updated all
the time (lots of
> turnover I guess) and I'm not really a Fireworks guys
(use Photoshop) and
> I've
> kinda figured out that there is a ".mno" (I think that's
what it is) file
> that
> stores the metadata to show where the .gif or .jpg was
made from the
> Fireworks
> .png file.
>
> I guess my question is, in matters of workflow, how do I
efficiently set
> up a
> .PNG file (from scratch) that saves its slices in either
.jpg or .gif,
> with the
> "here is the path to the original .png" flag so when I
come back to
> editing the
> .html in DW, I can see a flag that says "find the
original .png on Hard
> Drive
> 2"?
>
> I just did a search on OSX Spotlight for the image file
and it came up
> with
> the same named file as .mno or something like that. When
I opened that as
> a
> text doc, it gave a path, which fortunately helped me
find the original
> .png
> this time, so I didn't need to rebuild the image from
scratch. I did this
> through the "back door" of using OSX's search function.
>
> There are times I'm so busy, I need to find stuff fast.
How do I find
> original
> .pngs from .jpg/.gif images made in Fireworks, easily?
>
> How do I set up a good workflow from FW to DW?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> nick
>

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