Saving gradient swatches

I have been unable to save a gradient swatch. Is there a way to do this?
Of course I can copy a gradient from one document to another, but not save an individual swatch as a .ase file.
I have read, in a very reliable book on InDesign CS4,that this works but I can't make it happen. The Save Swatches option is grayed out until I add a regular swatch, and if I do this and select Save Swatches, only the non-gradients are saved.
I have tried radial, linear, different angles multiple colors. grayscale etc.
Thanks

John,
I hope it wasn't my book that indicated you could save gradients as ase files.
You can't.
The ase file format doesn't support gradient swatches.
If it was my book, please tell me what page the error is on and I'll fix it in the next version.

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