Saving keyword tags in LightRoom

I am a LightRoom newbie and I'm tearing my hair out. I've finished organizing, made a Collection, color corrected, cropped, etc. I'm preparing to do a batach convert RAWs to JPEGsto send to the photo editor.
The problem has come as I've added key words so the photo editor will now what she is looking at. It seems the photo info only is transfered in the Key Word box to the jpeg.
However, I can't get the words to keep the order I write them in. they jumble all around. So:
" Japan 2008, Koyasan, Budhist Monastary Village, annual festival "
becomes
"annual festival, Japan 2008, Budhist Monastary Village." and the get much more confusing.
I'm working in Mac. I've tried hitting appleS, it saves, no good. I've tried hitting RETURN, nope. I've tried both, nope.
I know there must be a very simple answer but I just can't find it.
Thank you for any help.

Roger - Verify that what LR is doing is sorting your keywords in alphabetic order. If so, this is by
design and not much can be done until Adobe changes this. There are already many requests in this
forum for this behavior to be changed (or to have the option of doing so) but no word on a timeline
for the change if ever.
In the meantime, you might consider using the Location metadata fields since it looks like that is
mainly what you are tracking in the keywords. If your photo editor requires keywording the way you
are already trying though, I understand this won't work for you. If so, the only solution I can
think of is to prefix your keywords with characters or numbers, e.g. a-Japan, b-Koyasan, etc. It's
ugly but may be acceptable.

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