Saving Smart Collections

Hello all,
I've recently upgraded from CS4 to CS6, when I uninstalled my cs4 package I realsed I'd just lost all my smart collections in Bridge. However a colleuge of mine has these same smart collections set up in his Bridge CS6, so I was wondering if theres any way of exporting or saving the samrt collections so I can import them to my bridge? Or any saved preference cache that I can copy?
It'll take a couple of hours to set up all the collections so any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers.

Collections are just a bunch of address to your photos. So no, you can not transfer them. Now smart collections are a little better, but they are still just address locations for the photos, and not the photos themselves.
You can go into the location of your CS4 and copy the collection and paste into CS6 and see if it works. That location is C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS4. Note that appdata is a hidden file.

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mrhoni wrote:
It says I have to manually reapply when images change.
Right - it computes filtered images on demand, instead of attempting to keep up-to-date. But, you can narrow down the search using "Keywords Contains Dogs", then use AnyFilter to refine the results (check "Visible photos only") - much faster that way.
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mrhoni wrote:
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Is Andy? wrote:
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