Saving Vector Images

Please forgive me if this is answered somewhere. My searching skills are lacking, or I can't find quite what I'm looking for. I have two questions:
I'm using the pen tool to draw a vector image (just an outline drawing, no fill) that will be saved as a pdf. The intent is for it to be a printable file for use as a (sewing) pattern. Part of the reason I'm using a vector image is so that the file can be made bigger or smaller to suit the user's needs. So, regarding saving the file and printing it, do I save it as a pdf just with the vector paths and achieve this? Or do I need to stroke the path before saving to the pdf? Or will stroking the path create a drawing without the vector-type (resizing) capabilities?
Also, I don't really want the file to be editable, since I don't someone else reworking and "stealing" my pattern, but is there a way in pdfs to manipulate the image without using an editing program like Illustrator? If, for example, the user wanted to move part of an image to another place on the page?
I'm a total newbie, so I appreciate your help!

mygenaddy,
I'm using the pen tool to draw a vector image (just an outline drawing, no fill) that will be saved as a pdf. The intent is for it to be a printable file for use as a (sewing) pattern. Part of the reason I'm using a vector image is so that the file can be made bigger or smaller to suit the user's needs. So, regarding saving the file and printing it, do I save it as a pdf just with the vector paths and achieve this? Or do I need to stroke the path before saving to the pdf? Or will stroking the path create a drawing without the vector-type (resizing) capabilities? Stroking the path does not change its being vector, but it makes it visible.
Also, I don't really want the file to be editable, since I don't someone else reworking and "stealing" my pattern, but is there a way in pdfs to manipulate the image without using an editing program like Illustrator? If, for example, the user wanted to move part of an image to another place on the page? A PDF without Illustrator Editing Capabilities (saving option) will put a certain limt to the editability, however not with such simple artwork. To be certain, you will have to use a raster format, but that is not scalable.
I'm a total newbie, so I appreciate your help!

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