Savings Keywords and GPS with RAW/JPEG mixture

I am going through my honeymoon photos that me and my wife took around 5k photos with needless to say a mixture of my RAW photos and her JPEG photos. I am going through and geotagging and keywording all of them. I would like to create an exportable file that she can have since she doesn't use LR. Is there anyway to do that for all of her JPEGs, my RAW (and jpeg duplicates of said RAWs) so she could import them all into say iPhoto or picassa?

I suppose if you knew how to program in SQL, you could create such a file. But other than that you would have to let LR write this information to XMP (in other words to the JPG files or to sidecar files for your RAWs) and see if your wife can make use of this information ... which brings up an interesting question, what is your wife going to do with that information? If she is going to make use of it in another photographic application, this may be all you need, an "exportable file" from LR would be no help in another photographic application.

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Then, I converted just the 2 CR2 files to DNG and kept them in the same folder. Aperture saw 2 DNGs and 2 CR2 files. No jpegs were seen. Business as usual. Then I removed the CR2s and renamed the jpegs so they had the same names as the DNGs (except for of course different extensions) and that's when Aperture saw the jpegs as separate files and saw them with bogus file sizes.
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Message was edited by: Nate Cannon

Try this - I do this as a matter of course:
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More here: [Aperture RAW+JPG|http://photo.rwboyer.com/2009/01/14/aperture-2-quick-tip-shooting-rawjp g>

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$$PhotoHobby wrote:
I'm very hesistant to take the chance on any 3rd party script.
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Not sure about the fix but the workaround is to not shoot Raw+Jpeg, which is pretty pointless anyway, as importing the Raw to iPhoto means it creates a Jepg preview, so you end up with Raw +Jpeg+Jepg...

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read this thread as it solved my issue with RAW+JPEG ...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=380111&tstart=0
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I understand the desire for having copies readily viewable outside Lightroom without having to export every time you wanna look at something. I recommend using a publishing service for accomplishing this goal, if not Lr's native hard drive publishing, then my (Rob Cole) TreeSyncPublisher or Jeffrey Friedl's Collection Publisher.
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