Scale effects in indesign Cs5

Hi Everyone,
I have some artwork with various shadows. Some of the artwork needs to be adapted large format. I need to scale the effects in indesign with the object, but the shadow stays the same size. I have checked my indesign prefs and made sure the General options are;
Object Editing
[tick] Prevent Selection of Locked Objects
When Scaling:
[selected] Adjust Scaling Percentage
Any ideas?
Lister

I never scale effects, myself.
But I used to work in a large format output service. There's no reason you have to prepare the file at full size. They can scale the output from your original, if that makes life simpler.
Here's my take on shadows. The size of the shadow is related to the distance of the object off the surface on which the shadow is projected and is independent of the size of the object (once upon a time I was a physics major). making the shadow larger or smaller tells the viewer that the object is further away or closer to the surface. In my opinion, the best way to deal withthis is to define the shadows as part of the object style, and edit the style if you want to change the size of the shadow.

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thinkingmanhawaii wrote:
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Log 1:
Process:         Adobe InDesign CS5 [11565]
Path:            /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Identifier:      com.adobe.InDesign
Version:         7.0.4.553 (7040)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [238]
User ID:         501
Date/Time:       2013-05-02 12:45:38.327 -0700
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.8.2 (12C60)
Report Version: 10
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000004
VM Regions Near 0x4:
--> __PAGEZERO             0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [    4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
    __TEXT                 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [   16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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3   com.adobe.InDesign.Links                0x11da96b9 0x11d39000 + 460473
4   DataBaseLib.dylib                       0x010fd89f InterfaceSnapshot::ResetObjectToSnapshot(IDataBase*, IPMUnknown*, IDType<SnapshotID_tag>, ISnapshotCache*, scoped_lastrevinfodataref&) + 575
5   ObjectModelLib.dylib                    0x01063b80 0x1038000 + 179072
6   ObjectModelLib.dylib                    0x01070eb8 ShuksanInit(IStartupScreen* (*)(), IPlugIn*) + 23784
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8   com.adobe.InDesign.Links                0x11d7b093 0x11d39000 + 270483
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106 com.adobe.InDesign                      0x0000288b main + 187
107 com.adobe.InDesign                      0x000027a6 start + 54
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Process:         Adobe InDesign CS5 [745]
Path:            /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Identifier:      com.adobe.InDesign
Version:         7.0.4.553 (7040)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [142]
User ID:         501
Date/Time:       2013-05-07 15:00:42.593 -0700
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.8.2 (12C60)
Report Version: 10
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO             0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [    4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
    __TEXT                 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [   16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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1   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x0ff2c0eb GetPlugIn + 1093467
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3   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x0ff2c2c7 GetPlugIn + 1093943
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5   ObjectModelLib.dylib                    0x01063b80 0x1038000 + 179072
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Trouble Sampling Colors with Eyedropper Tool: InDesign CS5

Hey everyone,
My name is Quin, and I've used InDesign CS5 for the past few years and am working on a magazine layout for the first time. I'm suddenly having a really difficult time getting the eye-dropper tool to extract color samples from images i've placed in my layout. These are either jpeg or PDF images. If I recall correctly, in my past use of the program, i could simply click the eyedropper tool in an image and get my color sample – but suddenly, i'm having trouble getting it to sample color/make a color swatch.
I tried double clicking the tool and excluding everything i wouldn't want it to sample. Tried locking/unlocking layers, tried making sure the image frame itself is selected, tried holding down option, tried trashing the preferences (using a 2012 MacBook Air with the latest version of OS X Mountain Lion)… most of the time when i attempt to sample a color, nothing shows up in the fill box, except the classic diaognal red line over white.
The exception is when i use the eyedropper to sample non-image base things i've already filled, like a retangle, it picks up the color fine. So it's likely image specific. Is there something really obvious that i'm missing? It's frustrating because i simply want to sample colors to get a rough idea for text colors and headlines that can match images, and there doesn't seem to be a quick way to do this…
Thanks so much for the help!
-Quin

Quin, I just had a eureka moment! I was having the exact same problem, unable to sample color from images with the eyedropper tool, and when I sampled text to apply formatting, it strangely applied a black rule around the new text. The problem was intermittent, with the tool both working and not working within the same document. I finally realized the tool was misbehaving when sampling an item on the document, but worked fine when sampling images or text on the pasteboard.
So, the document I'm working on is an ad with a 1pt rule around the border. I have the border on it's own layer at the top level, and locked, so I can select items on the ad without the border getting in the way. What I found is, even though it's locked, the eyedropper tool is sampling the border from that layer!
I tried turning off stroke settings in the eyedropper options just gave my text a fill of 'none.' Turning off both stroke and fill settings had no effect on the new text at all. I tried unlocking the layer and just locking the border on it's own, but it still picked up the formatting from the border.
The only thing that worked is to hide the layer! Turn off the layer 'eyeball' and see if that works for you.

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P Spier wrote:
Yeah, container may not be the best word to describe a book, which is why I put it in quotes, and I certainly didn't mean to imply that you can no longer open and edit the files outside the book. Doing that, however, means next time you open the book ID will complain and ask you to update things. No big deal, but if you open through the book panel it will save the changes through the book and that won't happen. No difference to the inidividual files.
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Did I commingle Autoflow and Smart Text Reflow in some way? I didn't think so.
Not at all. I'm just extra-sensitive to my own experiences with not having taking pains to keep clear on the differences between these similar-sounding terms.
My point was that HOW your text was put into the file to begin with, coupled with how your settings for STR are configured, is going to control whether subsequent editing triggers reflow. It's possible to have STR enabled and not have it work because you've limited it to master text frames and you haven't actually used any. An understanding of how autoflow works when placing text is important to being able to troubleshoot why STR is not behaving as expected (not to mention why text frames may not be adjusting if you edit the master page).
One reason for the confusions that come from working with Smart Text Reflow is that there's no indication in the UI, that STR is enabled, and when it's enabled, there's no indication in the UI of which STR settings are in effect, except by seeing the behavior. Are pages added at the end or story, section, or document? You may see them added in the Pages panel, if it's open, on screen, and if the appropriate portion of the document is in view; you may see them added on screen if the appropriate portion of the document is on screen - the end of story, section, or document.
In InDesign's Help, Smart Text Reflow is covered in only a few paragraphs. As you noted, there's much more to it.
Regards,
Peter
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The first line sets the indent amount, which you can edit as needed.
============================================
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