Scale to frame size: clip lose quality

Hi
I'm working with Premiere CS3.
I captured a clip from a Sony HVR-Z1E over IEEE1394 in a HDV Project. Settings: HDV 1080i, 25.00 Frames/Second, HD Anamorphic 1080 (1,333), upper field first.
Afterwards I import the clip in a DV Project. Settings DV PAL, 25.00 Frames/Second,D1/DV PAL Widescreen 16:9 (1, 422), upper field first.
In the timeline, I scale down the clip manually (under effectsettings/ move/scale)the clip to 53.3%. The clip lose quality. Pixels seems to be bigger. The same also happens if I check "scale to frame size".
Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance.
Regards, Corinne

Hi
Thanks for your reply. Yes that's right. But in CS2 the lose of quality was much smaller then in CS3. The clip was after scaling to 53.3% still useful. That can't be the problem.
I thought thath SD DV is upper field?
regards, Corinne

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