Scenarios without SUS

Hi,
I'm working with SRM 7.0 EhP2 and I want to configure the supplier qualification scenario ( Registration, prescreening ecc..) and the function of POC (purchase order confirm). In my istallation is not expected PI and so I think is not possible to use the SUS scenario. My question is: Is it possible to configure these scenarios without SUS? Could you please advise me? Thanks in advance.

Hi,
You need PI in ROS if you are using ROS in conjunction with SUS. Say after selecting a vendor you now want to do business with this vendor, so you will have to push him from SRM to SUS system. PI is needed for this push.
And yes for document exchange (PO/PO response/ASN/IV) between you and the supplier you need SUS
Regards,
Nikhil

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Hi Guys,
I would like to know if in SRM 7.0 the new Service Procurement External Staffing scenario would work in the Extended classic scenario implementation? Or is this only supported in standalone?
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Friends,
We are working on SRM 7.
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Hi Sandeep,
I too have a requirement to implement ROS without SUS in SRM 7.0 PPS. Can you send the config guide or steps to follow both in the ROS side and in the SRM Side. Your kind help will be rewarded and highly appreciated.
with regards,
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How do I test a scenario without getting the other party involved?
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hi Leanne,
have a look at my weblog:
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u have to follow the code in the link provided above but with some manipulations...
in case u r placing the files in different target dir depending upon the source directory then ur code will be something like this:
Note: i dont have a system as of now..so cant able to check the code for syntax errors..please cross check it
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msg.setMessageProperty("http://sap.com/xi/XI/System/File","Directory",targetDir1);
else if(SourceDir.equals("/SourceDirectory2"))
String targetDir1 = "/TargetDirectory2"
msg.setMessageProperty("http://sap.com/xi/XI/System/File","Directory",targetDir2);
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Error handling in File - XI - SOAP scenario without BPM

Hello!
We have a File -> XI -> SOAP scenario without BPM. The problem is that if the Web Service sends back an error XI tries to reprocess the same message again and again instead of taking the next one.
We do not want set the retry interval to NULL because most error cases are temporary connection problems and then also those messages would not automatically be reprocessed any more.
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Hi Tanja,
>>>The volume is 3000 messages/day on business days and 700 messages/day during weekends but the traffic will increase in the future
I think, you should check that out. It is assumedly only 2 days work to build a scenario:
IDoc -> BP
BP <-> SOAP/HTTP
BP -> IDoc (Acknowledgement)
In the process you need a condition branch, where you decide success or not. You need 2 Interface Mappings for filling the ALEAUD.
Just send 1000 IDocs to the Test-XI and look to performance monitoring at Runtime Workbench, to find out, how many message will be processed in one hour. Assumedly 3000 and more per day should be possible. The advantage would be to reduce number of systems (no file system) and messages (better monitoring) and using the standard (better maintenance).
>>>So you are suggesting I should use HTTP adapter and then add the SOAP header manually in a mapping?
Yes, build the SOAP envelop during the mapping. Most easy is to use XSL or, if your mapping is ready, an additionsal XSL. You can put the error into the Acknowledgement to see it in ERP transaction WE02.
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E1ADHDR/MESTYP: original message type
E1ADHDR/E1STATE/DOCNUM: original IDoc number
E1ADHDR/E1STATE/STATUS: 68 in case of error, 53 in case of success
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ISSUE:
1. While writing the message to queue A, below adapter log details(part b) concerned me:
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I am not sure why I am receiving the message that " could not create acknowledgements"
2. While reading the message from the sender channel,I consistently get the error message as below:
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Below are the blogs which I have already gone through:
1. JMS Synchronous Scenario without BPM - Correlation Settings and Transactional JMS Session
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/b028f6f6-7da5-2a10-19bd-cf322cf5ae7b
2. Note: 1086303
3. Sync / Async Bridge without BPM
In the note, they mentioned something about header being "MQRFH2". BUt in our case, the header is "MSSTR". Not sure whether it makes any difference.
Please help.
Edited by: GP on Mar 9, 2010 4:24 AM

Hi,
detailed error description:
com.sap.aii.adapter.jms.api.channel.filter.MessageFilterException: found no correlation ID: RecoverableException:
found no correlation ID at com.sap.aii.adapter.jms.core.channel.filter.SendToModuleProcessorFilter.filter(SendToModuleProcessorFilter.java:105) ...
This error would generally arose when there are multiple messages, got stuck in the outbound queue. Try to stop both the sender and receiver JMS comunication channels and clear both the inbound and outbound queues.
Once all the messages in the queue are cleraed, try posting the message again.
Regards,
Swetha.

Supplier Registration without SUS or XI?

Can I do Supplier (Vendor) Registration without SUS or XI? If not, what are my limitations?
I am using SRM server 5.5, and am not using CCM as the supplier directory. I am not using questionnaires. ROS_SELF_REG works. However, I cant notify vendors via email of acceptance. Because I dont have SUS, I cant use SRMSUS_SELFREG and SRMSUS_SELFEDIT, correct? To do User Registration, can I use ROS_SELF_EDIT?
How is workflow WS10000209 (Approving External User Master Record) used?
I appreciate any feedback.

Hi Scott
It's difficult to give a reply hre, but let me give it a try...For more details, try the links given above by other friends.
You do not need SUS for Self-registration.
COnfig
1)Create another client for ROS.
2)Create RFC destination for EBP system in new client. Similarly, maintain RFC dest for ROS client in EBP system.
3)Maintain backend systems for ROS system in EBP and EBP system in ROS.
4)Configure some product categories (need not replicate from ERP) to be used during registration.
5)Configure the IMG settings for Supplier Self-registration (they are easy..just go through them once.
6)Configure SCOT settings (check notes 455140) for outbound & inbound mails.
7)Maintain org plan for purchasing org (ppoma_bbp)& vendor group(ppomv_bbp). No need for elaborate org plan like in EBP...just simple org plan.
8) Maintain table BBP_marketp_info (Txn:SM30)
9) Activate ROS_SELF_REG, ROS_prescreen etc ROS services in SICF
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12) Maintain catalog call structure settings in EBP client IMG for the ROS supplier directory. The URL shd be taken from ros_prescreen attributes in ROS client.
Process:
1) With the service ROS_SELF_REG, a partner can register. System creates a BP (prospect) in the ROS client.
2) An email is sent to the given email id
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>>Can anybody send me blogs to convert IDoc structure to EDI or EDI to IDoc structure using Conversion Agent or using JAVA Mappings.
Using conversion Agent there is no coding, If you have a conversion agent insatlled in your landscape you will have better understanding..
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Hi,
I am using two different mappings.
Output of one mapping is acting as an input for other mapping i.e source message for second mapping.
Is it possible to do this scenario without using bpm?

hi,
have a look how it works from my weblog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/11/01/xi-xml-node-into-a-string-with-graphical-mapping
you can use any mapping but you need to
be aware how to input and output structures look like:
https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/weblogs/images/34500/1_xslt_pierwszy.JPG
BTW
target structure is only checked if you use
graphical mapping
if you use abap or java mappings your target structure
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Could you please give me the solution for this ???
I want steps for sending all IDOCs at a time- ---"Multiple IDOC to Multiple IDOC scenario without using BPM".???
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Hello,
Refer the below, for certain details!
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I have 2 scenario's
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how can i achive both these scenario's without BPM. Currently i have these 2 scenarios in our 7.1 version with BPM. but our requirement is to migrate this scenario into 7.4 without BPM(No PO).
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