Scene Detect on a clip after it's been captured?

I've got a clip with multiple interviews on it. I'd like to cut it up into the individual interviews (which all have a fixed camera). I know it can do this when you're capturing a tape, but is there a way to have Premiere autodetect where the cuts were and split up the footage automatically for a clip that's already in your project?

FAQ:How do I do scene detection with video files?
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Scene Detect on Existing Clips

I have about a dozen 20-30 minute films I have captured to video tape and have loaded into my system. Because of some of the content of the tape, and historical/geneological images, I would like to break the films down to individual scenes and then attach metadata and other info to the scenes for later tracking or sorting. (Through Bridge)
With the films captured, though, it is a bit problematic. Making sub clips, or "converting to master clip" doesn't work (which was expected) but is there any way to use scene detection with the existing AVI file, to break the films down to individual clips? Or, is my best bet to re-capture the films with scene detection set to on and use those individual clips?
Thanks,
Bill
Using Win Vista, with CS3 collection...

Yep, that's what I thought. I was thinking of scenealyzer as well...
Thanks,
Bill

Working with clips after audio has been extracted

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to trim clips once the audio has already been extracted? I have tried to do this, but the trimming only applies to the video strand, leaving the audio full length (an out of sync).
Or does any trimming have to be done before audio extraction?
Thanks.

Go into the "timeline" mode (as opposed to the "clips" mode). Place the playhead at the point you want to make the cut. Click on the video clip, and you will be able to "split" the video clip. Leave the playhead alone, then click on the corresponding extracted audio clip below the video clip. You will be able to "split" the audio clip. You may then want to "lock" the audio clip to the video clip at the playhead, so that it stays in sync.
If you already split the video clip and moved it, you may be able to re-sync it with the audio by dragging the audio clip in the timeline mode. In addition, if you set the preference to snap to the beginnings of clips, you should be able to accurately re-sync.

Scene Detect 8 + 15 extra frames on every captured clip

When capturing HDV in CS5, using Scene Detect creates extra frames.
Imagine clip #1 when it captures its footage, instead of stopping at the end of the clip, it continues for another 15 frames into Clip #2 and tacks this on to the end of Clip #1.
It then starts to capture Clip #2 but first it rolls back (this is done by Scene Detect electronically. The tape does not actually roll back) into Clip #1 and starts the capture 8 frames back into Clip #1 before it continues capturing the footage and proceeds to repeat the 15 extra frames capture from Clip #3. Everything is repeated throught Clip #3, Clip #4, etc. until the end of the tape.
These things did not happen in CS3. This is a CS5 problem.
Essentially each clip starts with 8 frames of the previous clip and ends with 15 frames of the next clip. The extra frames contain both video and audio in perfect sync.
When capturing, I am making no adjustments on the frames control which is what the Adobe Service suspected. I ran a capture with them on line demonstrating the problem.
Although I can still edit with this footage, using scene detect, with 280 clips per hour tape, it is not pleasant removing 8 frames from the front and 15 frames from the back of each of the 280 clips.
Is there a solution to this problem or perhaps a quick-automatic way of removing the frames from each of the 280 clips?
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I want my CS3 back.

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Wayne
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Using Auto- Analyzer for Scene detection only (and save time)

As a completely new user of Premier Elements 8 (running on a AMD phenom 3 core, 4g Ram, 500G Sata HD, Win Xp prof) I brought into Organise in the PE8 workspace clips imported in through Windows Movie Maker from my old DV video camera. I wanted to dectect the scene boundaries so I ran Auto-Analyse from the PE8 workspace. This took upto 4 hrs to analyse a 1hr clip which puzzled me as Movie maker only took about 20mins to detect the scenes on a much slower and lower spec laptop.
Tip
If you just want to Scene Detect don'r run Auto-Analyze from Premier workspace instead start with your first clip via the Organiser.   Reason - In the PE8 workspace "Edit" "preferences" Auto-Analyze does not appear so it will run with the defaults which is all tag options selected e.g "focus" "face recognition".
Instead go into Organise from the front page launcher, in "Edit" "preferences" Autoanalyse does appear with all the tag options selected as default   If you deselect all options and then run Autoanalyse on the video clip only scene detection runs on the video (the 1 hour clip was analysed with just the scene boundaries in less than 15mins!) The change from the default seems to apply when you run from the PE8 workspace after this so subsequent scene detection on other clips runs quickly.
P.S.
Old hands may know this trick but so far I had not picked anything up from the web based docs and information - so this is for novices such as myself. There may be other ways of scene detection but in my limited experience have not come across any yet.

As a completely new user of Premier Elements 8 (running on a AMD phenom 3 core, 4g Ram, 500G Sata HD, Win Xp prof) I brought into Organise in the PE8 workspace clips imported in through Windows Movie Maker from my old DV video camera. I wanted to dectect the scene boundaries so I ran Auto-Analyse from the PE8 workspace. This took upto 4 hrs to analyse a 1hr clip which puzzled me as Movie maker only took about 20mins to detect the scenes on a much slower and lower spec laptop.
Tip
If you just want to Scene Detect don'r run Auto-Analyze from Premier workspace instead start with your first clip via the Organiser.   Reason - In the PE8 workspace "Edit" "preferences" Auto-Analyze does not appear so it will run with the defaults which is all tag options selected e.g "focus" "face recognition".
Instead go into Organise from the front page launcher, in "Edit" "preferences" Autoanalyse does appear with all the tag options selected as default   If you deselect all options and then run Autoanalyse on the video clip only scene detection runs on the video (the 1 hour clip was analysed with just the scene boundaries in less than 15mins!) The change from the default seems to apply when you run from the PE8 workspace after this so subsequent scene detection on other clips runs quickly.
P.S.
Old hands may know this trick but so far I had not picked anything up from the web based docs and information - so this is for novices such as myself. There may be other ways of scene detection but in my limited experience have not come across any yet.

HDVsplit scene detect issue using CS3 export

Okay, I first used HDVsplit to read a HDV tape I made using CS3. It seemed to have some dropped frames at a number of places, so I decided to make a new tape. I had the m2t master files on my hard drive, so I decided to try to make a new tape. I used cs3 to export these files to my sony tape unit. No visible issues. But, when I used HDVsplit to try and read the tape, using scene detect, it looks like it thinks there is a scene detect break like every second. Never saw this issues with CS3 before. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave

Dont use scene detect? Do you not like to manually capture?
Scene detect reminds of those old avid systems with the " auto edit" button. If it were only that easy.

Scene Detection On Previously Captured Clip?

Is it possible to split an already captured clip into scenes (much how scene detection works during capture) on a sequence timeline?

For DV, check out DVdate; you can split a DV file both by time-of-day timecode and optically. It will bust the scenes out into individual AVI files--I'm assuming you're using a Windows machine, here.
For HDV, check out HDVSplit. I haven't split an HDV stream after-the-fact, but that capability is supposedly available in HDVSplit.
Both programs are free.

Capture with Scene Detect: Clip Name Keeps Changing

I am editing weddings and my raw footage is usually on 3 tapes. I capture with Scene Detect checked and I name the clip "Clip", so Premiere labels each clip as Clip 01, Clip 02, Clip 03, etc. But when I put in my 2nd tape, Premiere starts labelling them Clip 01 1, Clip 02 1, Clip 03 1, etc. How can I get Premiere to continue from the last number of the previous tape, (the same way that Scenalyzer does automatically)?

How can I get Premiere to continue from the last number of the previous tape
You can't. Once you stop capture, PP will always restart the numbering, even if it's from the same tape.
What I do is use Bridge to Batch Rename the clips.

Speedgrade crashes every time I use split into clips function as part of scene detection.

Speedgrade CC (latest version) crashes every time I use split into clips function as part of scene detection.
I can use the keyframe function fine, but if i split it into clips it crashes 9 out of 10 times... so to get the job done i simply keep reopening the project, cliping and praying it works, then it crashes.... and i repeat this until it doesnt crash!
File format im using is a 22min long Prores422 HQ 1080 25P file.
Any ideas?.... im guessing im going to get the old "reinstall the software" one first... anything else?
also have issues with Speedgrade just crashing for no good reason at random times while im grading too but ive come to expect that from the buggy software.

I've got several 1080p mov's that have multiple sequences with 20 to 40 minutes a sequence I've regularly run over to Sg from PrPro. Granted, they're pretty straight forward, mostly simple cuts with a few transitions/wipes, no more than 3 video layers a sequence. Only one has any Ae stuff on it, and again, pretty simple.
But as noted, there are those who do programs for broadcast with it ... I'm wishing one would chime in. Maybe shooternz ... I think he does b-cast work. Vastly more experienced than I am, PrPro, Ae, Sg, Audition ... the "suite". There's several others around here, though they tend to 'hang' in the PrPro forum more than here.
Neil

Speedgrade scene detection clips export easily into premiere pro??

I have a .mp4 movie and want to scene detect it to get different clips using speedgrade.
Then I want to switch to premiere pro in the most easy way!
I dont want to change the order of clips. the clip splitting is just for speedgrade adjustments.
(Im just starting to use the programms)

SG erzeugt keine Clips. Die Szenenerkennung wird nur intern verwendet, um separate Korrekturen voneinander zu trennen. Wenn, dann müßte jedes Segment separat exportiert werden. Aber umgekehrt kann SG wunderbar vorseparierte Premiere Sequenzen verwenden...
Mylenium

Scene Detect - Duplicate "Filename"

Previously, when I scene-detected (by content... it's an old analog tape) "tape7.avi", it created:
*a folder named "tape7",
*each clip named "tape7-0000", "tape7-0001", etc.
I believe that was done in PE4.
Now, in PE7, I do the same thing: import a "tape8.avi" and scene-detect. But now it creates
*a folder named "tape8.avi"
*every clip is named the same thing: "tape8.avi".
Obviously, having 100 clips all named the same thing is less-than-helpful.
I keep thinking this is a setting somewhere that I'm missing, but I can't find it.
How do I get my scene-detected clips to have unique names (e.g. tape8-0000)?

I give up!
I've tried troubleshooting this, and still get the same result no matter what I do.
*I rebooted.
*I caputred the AVI using WinDV and using built-in Premiere capture.
*I tried scene detect as part of Premiere capture; separately after Premiere capture; separately after WinDV capture
*I've tried different names for the capture AVI
*I've cleared out every reference to the captured AVI (cached files, autosaves, etc.)
*I've started new projects and added the AVI and did new scene detect (according to Adobe doc, scene analysis is by project)
*I let PRE finish its "creating peak file for tape8.avi..." and I've started the scene analysis before it finished the peak file generation
No matter what I do, every single "detected" clip is named exactly the same. No sequence number.
I keep looking for a checkbox that says "Append sequence number for scene detect" that's not checked, because that would explain things, but I haven't found it yet!
Frustrating beyond belief, and I'm out of ideas short of re-installing PRE7. I would do that if I had even the slightest hope that it would fix it. But since I just recently installed PRE7, I highly doubt re-installing it will fix anything.
BTW, I did check and verify that this is the first AVI I've captured with PRE7. The last AVI I captured was with PRE4 and everything was fine.

Scene Detect and Separate Files on OSX

I am trying to find a way to save my scene detected clips as individual files instead of subclips. I'm obviously using OSX. Is there a way to accomplish this in the capture settings or once the master clip has been made? If neither of these are possible is their an easy way to import or pull a subclip into After Effects?
I ask because I am used to the PC way and have gotten used to it and found it very simple to remove junk clips.
Adobe, why is this different on each platform?
Thanks for the help!

I wonder if this isn't another QuickTime "feature". Avid (which is more-or-less a QuickTime app, even on Windows) and I believe FCP act the same way when it comes to capturing DV media from tape. Scene detection is performed, but in the case of either, a captured clip is not broken up into individual files. Instead, subclips are created and/or markers are placed in the captured clip to delineate scene changes.
I've never seen such behavior with an app that is more AVI-centric, like PPro (on Windows, anyway) and Edius.
Not the answer you're necessarily looking for, I realize...

Scene Detection plug-in options for Pr? Speed Grade just stops detecting

Hello all: We use Pr to cut and recut 30min to 3hr programs. I would really like to use a scene detect plug-in to help speed things up by cutting up the Line cut clip, so I can cut in multi cam ISOS.
I've tried to use Speed Grade and it just stops for no apparent reason after ~15 mins into either clip I've tried.
Plus, a lot of our deliverable clips are exported as MXF which won't work in Speed Grade.
Any suggestions for a plug-in for scene detection?
Thanks,
Tolbert

If you're in CC, what codec the clips are doesn't matter in a Direct Link workflow to SpeedGrade ... you should be able to use anything PrPro handles (though this is not always perfect, just mostly). Other than exporting say an EDL from PrPro to use Sg's scene detection capability? Hmmm. At that point, yea, MXF wouldn't work. Unless you proxied into Sg & re-conformed back in PrPro to "online" files. Boy, that's an old workflow these days!
I can certainly see why you'd want scene-detection automated if possible. That would take some time, scrubbing then working down to exact frames if there's a bunch of scenes per show. Maybe shooternz can pop in here ...
Neil

IDVD 08 - problem with scene selection tabs not working after "burn"

I have a movie that is about an hour long (made in iMovie08 using mostly still photos). I wanted to have "chapters" -- but with that option gone, I used the Scene Selection option in iDVD08. This created menus with 15 scene selection buttons (I chose every 4 minutes). The menus were automatically created by iDVD and I did nothing to change them, except to type in scene info (two-three words).
The buttons all worked fine on the computer, and I burned a DVD. The DVD worked great in my VCR player. I'd select Play Movie and it would go. I'd select Scene Selection and I'd get the menus for that. But when I'd highlight one of the scene selections and "enter" (select) -- it wouldn't go to that scene. I could go back and forth between menus, and could move around and highlight the scene buttons, but selecting would not start the scene to play. The movie played fine from start to finish, and the other remote features worked (stop, pause, menu, etc.).
I went back to iDVD and chose a different theme (thinking maybe I'd inadvertently done something to mess things up. The only thing I did differently in addition to the new theme, was to add two small movie clips - and I rearranged the buttons on the menu (dragging) to get them positioned where I wanted them. So my first menu says "Play Movie". The second menu has: Play Movie, Scene Selections, Little Movie 1, Little Movie 2. Everything worked greated in iDVD. Then I created a disk image to view using DVD Player (rather than waste another DVD). Same problem -- only worse. This time I couldn't even highlight Scene Selection to get to the scenes' menus.
Any thoughts on why I'm not able to get the "Scene Selection" buttons to work after a burn? Am I missing a step somewhere in iDVD?
Thanks.

I am not sure, but does your post concerning the problem, that all Remote Control function will work properly within iDVD'08 but after burning the DVD absolutely not with the RC of your set top DVD player connected to your TV?
If this is it:
Meanwhile I could figure out - after many nights of not been very productive and only working out on all the iDVD'08 problems - that **ALL** of the *7.0 Themes* have a major problem in generally.
The following points are concerning iDVD'08 using any of the 7.0 Themes:
- Complete deep freeze of your Mac under Leopard when rendering/coding/burning a movie which has chapters and you use movies instead of still images in drop zones. (LeopardiDVD087.0Themes)
- Functions on remote control of your set top DVD player are not working correctly when making a movie with chapters. This is generally on Tiger and Leopard the same problem using iDVD08 with any of the 7.0 Themes.
Quick and dirty workaround:
You may avoid this if you simply use a 6.0 Theme or lower version of the Themes.
But this is of course not the clue...
It is VERY DISAPPOINTING, having software at such a low quality level deliverd by Apple. And somehow it looks like they DO NOTHING against it. No statement, no excuse, they really remain silent.
This may also be a thread you could be interested in:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1203323
Cheers,
Roland

SG Scene Detect is a NOP -- how do the sensitivity controls work?

I have a four minute clip that produces a complete flatline in SG Scene Detect.
My guess is that it may have something to do with the content: it is 8mm film partially digitized to HD (i.e. SG/SD is part of the process) so is letterboxed on L/R... I'm thinking maybe all that black is driving the detector crazy.
In any case, NONE of the documentation I can find gives any hint at all as to what the "sensitivity" controls do. Is there a document anywhere on this?
What I see for controls:
- Large arrow (and digits) that can be moved with mouse or shift-mouse (for speed). Default value 2.0
- If the value is changed, a blank box shows up on lower right. It appears to reset the value.
- A small square below the line appears to signify nothing, at least for now
- Tooltip says "Press ctrl to toggle Gang" -- so there's a set of ganged controls somehow
- The normal slider range is 1.25 to 4.0
- If I go beyond those values high or low (even negative), two extra markers show below the line, and approach from both ends simultaneously toward the small box
- Sliding left increases the number without limit (I dragged up to 35 billion). The two lines appear to touch the box at around +130
- Sliding right decreases the number below zero also without limit. The two lines appear to touch the box at around -130
Pressing 'ctrl' may toggle a Gang but I guess I'm not a Gang Member -- I can't see where the Gang is hiding out
In any case. I'd love to know what these controls do. And I'd love to actually detect a scene in my clip!
Thoughts?
Pete

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