Scene Detection Broken in CS6?

I'm having awful difficulty capturing video in CS6. Specifically, every 60 seconds or so CS6 keeps prompting me to save the scene it thinks it's captured, even though scene detection is *not* checked (it is off) and abort on dropped frames is also off.
I'd be happy to just have it capture the tape as a single scene, but it refuses to cooperate.
I am unable to disable scene detect, it seems.
The only other reports I was able to find relate to CS5 and the suggestions there do not seem to make any difference.
Re: Possible Work Around for Capture and Scene Detect
Anyone else seen this problem?
Setup:
Mac OS X 10.10.2
Canon GL2 (mini DV; firewire)
Premiere Pro CS6

I ended up enabling scene detect and babysitting this particular tape. That was extremely painful and not what I expected from a professional product like Premiere.
As a side note, it seems like scene detect works and that this is perhaps a problem with a separate mechanism that tries to detect the end of tape or something.

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This is baffling as I've captured many tapes from many weddings and have never experienced this problem to this point.
I did reset my cameras to default settings recently but can't seem to find anything that would indicate that causing the issue. However, it is the only change I have made unless a recent Adobe or OS update could have caused the issue?
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For anyone seeking a possible solution to this simple but incredibly aggravating issue: Make sure your camera's date and time fields are set. Premiere Pro's "Scene Detect" function uses your cameras time signature to differentiate scenes in your captured footage. No time code = no individual scene detection.
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Scene detection normally works, so there must be something going on with you old camera.
I have a bunch of old analog 8MM tapes that I imported through a DV 8MM Digital camera. These all came in as 1 long clip.
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