Scheduling Network downtime of guest network

Is it possible to schedule the Time Capsule to shut down it's guest network access at certain times throughout the day - i.e. homework time. Would like to keep the kids off their ipod touches during homework times. Trying to avoid manual shut down because I will always forget or not be available. Thanks!

mjsouth4 wrote:
Is it possible to schedule the Time Capsule to shut down it's guest network access at certain times throughout the day - i.e. homework time.
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I'm not sure if this works with the guest network, but you might look into the Time Capsule's access control features. In AirPort Utility look at the AirPort panel, Access Control tab. Set the "MAC Address Access Control" list to "Timed Access", then add each device and declare its permitted access times. To identify the MAC addresses, pull down the "Base Station" menu, select "Logs and Statistics", then choose the "DHCP Clients" tab.

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